Recently, AOC followed up her objectively dishonest appearance at the DNC with an ig love where she answered questions/platformed democratic talking points. During that stream, she directed pointed criticism at Jill Stein and portrayed the green party as a whole as self-serving opportunists.
Since then, that narrative has been taken up as a major talking point across liberal and pro-capitalist left circles on social media, including on this site. This was Jill's response.
Well unfortunately, they are self serving opportunists. AOC’s doing a bad job here but the Green Party in America is less than useless right now. They make no effort to build power and only pop up during the general election. They don’t do anything. Their strategy is bad. They want that 5% of the vote so they can be on national ballots, but do virtually nothing on a local or state level. it’s a top down approach that will never work.
If you’re not gonna vote for Harris, you may as well just not vote for president and just focus on down ballot stuff. There’s truly no good to be done by throwing a vote to Jill Stein.
I don’t want to pop your bubble, but republicans and democrats can’t get shit done either. Seems strange to discredit the Geen Party for something the 2 main parties are guilty of themselves.
I’ve been involved with leftist politics for most of my life at this point. I’ve seen this argument, that the Democrats and Republicans are just the same and no one gets anything done every four years and I just think it’s garbage.
One party wants to round up trans people and the other doesn’t. One supports unions and the other doesn’t. One supports student debt relief and the other doesn’t. One wants to push through abortion protections into law and the other doesn’t. One wants to fire teachers for being gay and the other doesn’t. One wants to ban IVF treatment and the other doesn’t. One wants universal pre K and the other doesn’t. One wants a child tax credit and the other doesn’t. One wants a new homeowner tax credit and the other doesn’t. One wants to roll back environmental protections and the other doesn’t. One wants to break up monopolies and the other doesn’t. One supports Christian fascism and the other doesn’t. Democrat policies are a pretty livable baseline to work up from, Republicans want you to be dead. I can go on but I’m at work.
Like, I know the Democrats aren’t moving fast enough on this stuff but acting like it’s all the same is baloooooney. There’s major, major differences between the parties that hold power in America. On Israel, the Democrats do largely suck. When it comes to Israel, we are largely dealing with a uni-party set-up. But I guarantee you Republicans will be worse on everything else. I also think Harris is pushable. How people campaign, the questions they answer, the scripted way they answer them is all calculated to get the most people possible to vote for them. It’s not official foreign policy, it’s vague platitudes. My thinking with regard to this election is that we get someone in power who at the very least doesn’t want us dead or deported, and continue to push. Pressure politics doesn’t end after the election. The only time politicians are lobbyable isn’t while they’re running for office. To think that is to not have understanding of how politics work.
And if you don’t like it this cycle, don’t vote by all means but to pretend that Jill Stein, a caught-red-handed scam artist, is the person to lead us out of how US politics works is just unserious.
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u/isawasin Non-Jewish Ally Sep 05 '24
Recently, AOC followed up her objectively dishonest appearance at the DNC with an ig love where she answered questions/platformed democratic talking points. During that stream, she directed pointed criticism at Jill Stein and portrayed the green party as a whole as self-serving opportunists.
Since then, that narrative has been taken up as a major talking point across liberal and pro-capitalist left circles on social media, including on this site. This was Jill's response.