r/JewsOfConscience • u/isawasin Non-Jewish Ally • Sep 05 '24

News Jill Stein responds to AOC

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u/arbmunepp Sep 05 '24

These assholes are both self-serving opportunists. AOC supports the imperial Democratic leadership, and Jill whitewashes the equally genocidal regimes of Putin and Assad.

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u/anticomet Sep 05 '24

Also the greens aren't the only anti-genocide party. There's Claudia De la Cruz of the socialist party as well

https://votesocialist2024.com/

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u/MancAngeles69 Sep 05 '24

Yeah I’m in a red state and I’m strongly considering Claudia and PSL. I can’t abide by genocide. I voted Biden in 2020 because we needed a serious government to stem the pandemic. I’ve always voted blue, but Kamala’s DNC speech was downright chilling. I have no doubt that she will just kick the can down the road with Israel and let a genocide continue. She actually frightens me.

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u/arbmunepp Sep 06 '24

PSL is an abusive, authoritarian cult

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u/Zealousideal-Skin655 Sep 05 '24

Tucker also said Harris frightens him. He called her evil. You have something in common with Tucker Carlson.

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u/MancAngeles69 Sep 05 '24

You don’t think her pledge to make the US armed forced the “most lethal fighting force in history” is troubling? I was giving her a chance but that is a horrifying thing to say.

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u/IWantFries21 Non-Jewish Ally Sep 05 '24

...What?

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u/anticomet Sep 05 '24

Sounds like they scratched a liberal and a fascist started to bleed

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u/Supercursedrabbit Sep 05 '24

Don’t vote for psl. Psl covers up sexual abuse committed by their members

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u/formerlyrbnmtl Sep 06 '24

Exactly. All politicians including Jill Stein must be thoroughly criticized, people who think she's an exception to the role are delusional

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u/MartinLutherVanHalen Sep 05 '24

There’s a space between whitewashing and nuance. The mainstream American idea of “baddies” like “Putin” is fucking childish. Especially from a country that supports the Saudis and Netanyahu.

Jill Stein is not a very effective political operator. She holds progressive back by staying in leadership while achieving nothing.

AOC is a nice person I am sure but she’s also a mainstream Democrat, not a radical. Those of us who want more radical politics are disappointed.

Both peoplecan be simultaneously right and wrong.

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u/marvsup Sep 05 '24

Especially from a country that supports the Saudis and Netanyahu.

I just want to push back on this idea specifically, not the spirit of your entire comment, because I hate this idea that because your government does bad things you can't criticize other countries' governments. I know you're not trying to say that exactly, but that's the work that the above sentence does in your comment.

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u/arbmunepp Sep 06 '24

If it's childish to think Putin is bad, I hope I never grow up.

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u/DoctorPainMD Sep 05 '24

Don’t downvote this dude, he’s right.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Yep, politicians gonna politician. In America, almost every politician serves either a corporation or other government officials before serving the people.

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u/Mission_Armadillo389 Sep 05 '24

The US/CIA instigated the Syrian civil war in an attempt to oust Assad (for the sake of Israel). The US/CIA armed jihadist groups to do so. The Syrian government’s role in that war is incomparable to the genocidal Israeli war on Palestine. Maybe get unplugged from neoliberal mass media for a bit.