r/JewsOfConscience Jul 31 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/SpiritualUse121 Non-Jewish Ally Jul 31 '24

Me again! (I'm keen). Two parter today on Judaism, if you please:

1/2: From what I have read and heard, a (religious) Jew is someone who keeps the 613 commandments. (Mizvot?) Is that definition unanimous across different sects & denominations?

2/2: I am not religious but over the years have read a bit of Christian Old Testament & some Quran. From a theological perspective, I personally cannot reconcile Old Testament and Zionism. The current state of Israel & it's rhetoric looks & sounds like apostasy / blasphemy to me. What is your take and are there relevant commandments, beliefs or teachings which you believe are contradictory (or valid) to modern day Zionism in Judaism? EG I have heard of the Three Oaths.

TY šŸ™šŸ»

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '24

In regards to question 2, I think it is most accurate to state that Judaism and Torah are neither inherently Zionist or anti-Zionist. Because Zionism is a modern political ideology based on the concept of nation-states that has been around for only ~250 years. Judaism cannot be used as a trump card to entirely end any debate around Zionism. Thereā€™s no situation where you can say, ā€œwell this verse from this chapter of this book says this, and therefore Zionism is correct/invalidated.ā€ Thereā€™s also no Jewish principles of faith that are formally recognized by all Jews, and there exists no centralized Jewish authority. We donā€™t have the Apostolic Creed or Nicene Creed like there is in Christianity, or Kalimat As-Shahadat in Islam.

However, I am personally unable to reconcile my understanding of Torah with a justification for Zionism.