r/JewsOfConscience Non religious Jewish communist Jul 23 '24

Activism Time to pressure Killer Kamala!

Now that vice president Kamala Harris looks to be the next democratic presidential candidate, it is time to remind her how unequivocally pro Palestine her voter base is. We need an email campaign and we need a protest campaign, we need to apply pressure in every single way.

Below is the Email information for contacting Kamala Harris, every single American who gives a fuck about Palestine needs to send an email to Kamala Harris. Please share this so as many people can see this as possible. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/vicepresident/

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u/bearoscuro Non-Jewish Ally Jul 23 '24

Are you serious? Just respectfully ignore the genocide for two months, and then somehow stop them after the election, when thousands more Palestinians are dead, and no one has the leverage of vote threatening anymore?

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 23 '24

leverage of vote threatening

It's not a threat if the person knows that you are bluffing. Are you going to turn to the DNC and tell them, "If you don't stop Israel I'm going to vote for Trump"??

The only thing a stunt like that will do is increase apathy amongst Democratic voters and increase the chance that Trump gets elected.

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u/bearoscuro Non-Jewish Ally Jul 23 '24

You can threaten to vote third party or only vote on a local level, and specifically say your single issue that would get you to vote Harris is a ceasefire. Why would they know you're bluffing? They're not telepathic. The approval numbers are actually bad enough that they're working in very thin margins, and they know this. That's why they had to take this drastic measure of shuffling Biden out to begin with. This is the time when they'll be most vulnerable to pressure from a bloc like Uncommitted, if they're forced to contend with several hundred thousand voters all pledging this, they can't afford to take that bluff.

Vote how you like, but if this tiny, completely legal gesture to pressure the government is too risky for you, then to be blunt, this is rapidly approaching a "with 'allies' like these, who even needs enemies" level of risk-averse liberalism that abandons the most vulnerable. I don't really have anything further to say if that's the case.

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 23 '24

First, thanks for elaborating your thoughts a bit and sharing them. I will give it more thought.

I just can't escape the idea that the election will come down to either the Democratic candidate or the Republican candidate and even if my only issue is what happens in Israel Palestine, I'm unclear who the DNC could put on the ticket that would be worse than Donald Trump. And not voting or voting for a third party, might be a message to the DNC for who they should run in the future but in this election it is a vote for Trump.

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u/bearoscuro Non-Jewish Ally Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24

Ok. That's all in the future. The genocide is happening now. Do you not think that is enough of a moral imperative to do everything possible for a ceasefire? This isn't exactly Palestine Action level factory destruction stuff, no one's asking you to face down riot police, so far it's one email and maybe a petition.

If sending an email exceeds the limit of the activism you want to do for Palestine, that's extremely bleak to point of being funny. I'm going to be blunt. There's a literal genocide, people are dying every day because there isn't a ceasefire, more will continue to die of longterm complications because the medical system is gone, people are being exposed to horrific hate crimes and police violence and retaliation in the west for speaking out or even just being visibly brown or Muslim looking... but we don't worry! We all have allies like this, who care about it so much, just not enough to send an email. Thanks I guess?

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 23 '24

I was mostly bothered by the tone that the OP took with "Killer Kamala". FWIW, I don't think that accusing President Biden of personally orchestrating or running genocidal actions has been in the slightest bit helpful for the Palestinian people and I don't think that coming up with a hint-at-genocide nickname for VP Harris will be helpful either.