r/JewsOfConscience Jewish Jul 11 '24

Opinion Opinion | A Gaza cease-fire agreement appears within reach

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/07/10/israel-hamas-gaza-ceasefire-agreement-within-reach/

It's not a done deal by any stretch of the imagination but I'm glad to see there is hope again.

The key things that have shifted seem to be * (So far unspecified) Arab states have agreed to back an interim government which is not Hamas, not israel, is not the Palestinian authority (but has ties to the PA) * Egypt saying they will work to block new smuggling tunnels between Egypt and Gaza. * Both sides agreed to a UN proposal that once a ceasefire begins it will continue indefinitely as long as both parties are engaged in further negotiation.

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 11 '24

If the government in Gaza is a political legitimate entity, they can bring their weapons in over the border with Egypt like normal countries do. I want a normal Palestinian government and they can have a military and an army. I don't want Hamas to have weapons. Please God Hamas will shrivel up and die.

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u/noam99 Jul 11 '24

Countless Palestinians view Hamas as their legitimate government and they function as a government in many of the same ways as the "normal governments" of other countries.

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 11 '24

There are countless North Koreans who swear fealty to their supreme leader. That doesn't change the fact that Kim Jong Un is a ruthless murdering dictator.

There are Palestinians who view Hamas illegitimate government and there are those who don't. The overwhelming majority of Western democracies have taken a careful look at Hamas and decided they are terrorists. I'm not an expert so I'm not going to form my own opinion. I'm ok trusting those guys who do that stuff for a living in their assessment of Hamas.

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u/justvisiting7744 Caribbean Sephardic Marxist Jul 11 '24

everything you know about dprk (and hamas too) is informed by imperialist media oligarchs who benefit from the subjugation of the global south dawg😭😭😭!!! the majority of countries outside of the west (whose populations constitute the majority of the world) dont even recognize hamas as a terrorist organization, you just care about the “western democracies’” opinion more because your western conditioning has led you to dismiss the opinions of the rest of the world bro😭😭😭!!!

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 11 '24

What's "south dawg"? Is that like up-dog but reversed?

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u/justvisiting7744 Caribbean Sephardic Marxist Jul 11 '24

meant it as in “global south, dawg”, might need to add a comma there #oopsies

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 11 '24

Got it. I think we'll leave it as I disagree with you but I'm glad I understand what you said. Thank you.

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u/justvisiting7744 Caribbean Sephardic Marxist Jul 11 '24

no problem

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u/actsqueeze Jewish Anti-Zionist Jul 12 '24

Okay, well DPRK is bad, whether we’re being neg fed propaganda or not