NYC Dyke March Drama

[u/Ok_Item_3313]

The NYC Dyke March is being boycotted by many other organizations including Act Up NYC for putting out and subsequently deleting this statement. Thoughts?

Imma be real I don't really think this statement is bad at all, but I understand that others have read it as "all lives matter"-ing the genocide in Gaza. Would love to hear more takes.

[u/cupcakefascism]

Excellently put. A friend recently accused me of having no empathy for Jewish suffering because I don’t talk about it in my activism and I was trying to explain that as Jewish suffering has so often been used to obscure Palestinian suffering, it feels grotesque to keep going on about it in the current context.

[u/PossibleDeer4613 → u/cupcakefascism]

A lot of these posts seem to think jews concerned about antisemitism are making things up. There was an 1300% rise in antisemitic hatecrimes in the uk in 2023 according to the police. Jews have every right to discuss it and instead of pro-palestine spaces dismissing all of it as bad faith attempts to decenter palestine it would behoove them to take it seriously- educate themselves, adopt a definition of antisemitism other than “there are jews here therefore antisemitism cannot exist” and actually bolster their cause as free from antisemitism with actual receipts. It would be good for the cause and more jews would march.

[u/cupcakefascism → u/PossibleDeer4613]

Tearing down hostage posters is considered an antisemitic hate crime according to the Met Police, so I won’t be taking those figures particularly seriously.

I don’t think all the accusations are bad faith, though a huge number are. A large number of those that aren’t are still indicative of a mindset that believes pro-Palestine activism should somehow be subject to Jewish approval and call anything that makes them uncomfortable, e.g. support for Palestinian armed resistance, calling for the dismantling of Israel, antisemitic. One flounced out of a meeting because of a t-shirt I (a Jew) was wearing which had been designed by a Jewish artist.

That doesn’t mean antisemitism doesn’t exist - I’ve had maybe less than 10 instances, limited to dodgy comments, in pro-Palestine spaces since last year. All of which I shut down and moved on and that was that.

Not getting involved in action against one of the most horrific crimes in recent memory because of a pre-occupation that there might be a chance of something that might, at most, make you feel upset and uncomfortable is as I said, grotesque. And the people that keep going on about it expose themselves for the self-absorbed navel-gazers that they are.

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