r/JewsOfConscience Jew of Color Jun 29 '24

Activism NYC Dyke March Drama

The NYC Dyke March is being boycotted by many other organizations including Act Up NYC for putting out and subsequently deleting this statement. Thoughts?

Imma be real I don't really think this statement is bad at all, but I understand that others have read it as "all lives matter"-ing the genocide in Gaza. Would love to hear more takes.

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u/Specialist-Gur Ashkenazi Jun 30 '24 edited Jul 01 '24

I’m not saying you shouldn’t. I’m just a bit bothered by more and more divisions within communities of people who largely support each other. That’s it. It’s one thing to allow zionists at your march and it’s another to potentially coddle overly sensitive people

Edit: by overly sensitive I mean well meaning Jewish people who have bought into the propaganda that these marches are unsafe but also support Palestinians.. anyway the OP blocked me so.. I just wanted to clarify for everyone else.

I also don’t love the dyke march statement.. if that isn’t clear.. I just don’t think we as an Antizionist Jewish community are getting anywhere by telling all Jews that are at all afraid to get over it. We’re like the one group that even has a tiny potential to bridge the gap with on the fence Zionists/zionist apologists

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u/farbissina_punim Jewish Jun 30 '24

I'm curious. Since I didn't mention boycotting, why are you particularly singling me out on this? I made a number of different points, none of which have to do with boycotting, yet you are aiming all of your boycott-centric frustrations in my direction. I talked about my wish that the organization would be more succinct in its message. I talked about the importance of leaning on an organization's mission statement. I talked about how Zionists don't make me, as a queer Jew, feel safe at an event. Why is their safety more important than my own? I talked about wishing this organization made better choices. I barely criticized this organization at all. You are using terms like "find it so horrific". Did I do or say anything that implied I was horrified by this?

I didn't use the term boycott one time. Why me? Why, out of everything I said, are you honing in on a point I didn't make?

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u/Specialist-Gur Ashkenazi Jun 30 '24

I’m honestly not sure what about my posting is coming off as critical or frustrated with you.. I’m talking about the situation more generally and since you mentioned me specially about “not boycotting” I suppose I wrongly assumed you were for it and were suggesting I make alternate decisions. I don’t think I mentioned you at all.. this thread is specifically about people who are horrified enough to boycott it. I responded to your statement since you were calling out people who were unbothered so I merely attempted to explain my position. That’s all.

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u/farbissina_punim Jewish Jun 30 '24

This has been a spectacular waste of time. You have no POV, you have no argument. You have been talking to me about a boycott I didn't ask for or even mention. "I don’t think I mentioned you at all"? You have been responding to my statements. When you click "reply" the person gets a notification that you are talking to them.

Please go engage with someone else.