r/JewsOfConscience Jew of Color Jun 29 '24

Activism NYC Dyke March Drama

The NYC Dyke March is being boycotted by many other organizations including Act Up NYC for putting out and subsequently deleting this statement. Thoughts?

Imma be real I don't really think this statement is bad at all, but I understand that others have read it as "all lives matter"-ing the genocide in Gaza. Would love to hear more takes.

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u/yungsemite Jewish Jun 29 '24

I think you’re missing the context here about Jews and Jewish symbology being unwelcome at these marches.

https://forward.com/news/breaking-news/375563/chicago-dyke-march-ejects-jewish-pride-flag-wavers/

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u/hotdogsonly666 Ashkenazi Jun 29 '24

No I'm not. That flag is about so called Israeli gay pride, not Jewish gay pride. And although it was a few years before, the pride flag would be held, this month, by an IOF soldier in front of demolished buildings in Gaza, where they probably killed hundreds of people, with the words "in the name of love" written on it. I'm not misunderstanding in the slightest. The pinkwashing of so called Israel has been going on for ages.

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u/yungsemite Jewish Jun 29 '24

When I google “Jewish gay pride flag,” guess what comes up. Israel’s use of the Star of David does not irrevocably co-opt its use.

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u/hotdogsonly666 Ashkenazi Jun 29 '24

It was literally a coalition of people, including Jews (who I know personally), who banned that flag because of the correlation it has with so called Israel, and what none of those articles mentions is, those people who were holding it were verbally and physically harassing people with Palestinian flags. Also literally in that article the holder of the flag is quoted saying she is a Zionist who believes in a two state solution. Maybe we don't believe everything a large Zionist apologist media website says at face value.

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u/hotdogsonly666 Ashkenazi Jun 29 '24

Do you understand how cringeworthy it is to decide to spend energy putting down what indigenous people have been asking folks to do which is acknowledge and name colonized lands so history of the people who have been occupied and brutalized doesn't get erased? Also I could make it soooooooooooooo much longer I could say "unceeded and occupied Palestine colonially known as Israel" but "so called" is a little easier for me to type in haste but I suppose since I'm pointing it out anyway maybe I'll just take the extra time to do it in the future so thanks for the encouragement just because it makes you annoyed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/cupcakefascism Jewish Communist Jun 29 '24

You sound more cringeworthy than they do.

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u/yungsemite Jewish Jun 29 '24

Agreed.