Amusing realization today

[u/Welcomefriend2023]

We are good friends with a Palestinian family that owns a supermarket here in the US, so we shop there regularly.

Today I noticed they had cheeses made in Monsey NY, with a hechsher of an antizionist rabbinical certification. I bought some for my daughter who keeps kosher.

I just find it cute that we buy antizionist Jewish products from Palestinians!😊

[u/specialistsets]

Assuming Satmar, while theologically anti-Zionist they still do business in/with Israel

[u/Welcomefriend2023 → u/specialistsets]

Rav Menachem Meir Weissmandl of Nitra, Monsey is the mashgiach.

[u/specialistsets → u/Welcomefriend2023]

I don't think Nitra is explicitly anti-Zionist, moreso non-Zionist like most hasidic groups. they have a presence in Israel.

[u/Welcomefriend2023 → u/specialistsets]

There are many antizionist chareidim in the Holy Land. Their existence there as a group predates 1948.

[u/specialistsets → u/Welcomefriend2023]

Yes but most are not anti-Zionist in the sense used here. They are theologically anti-Zionist (or non-Zionist) but actively benefit financially from the Israeli government, don't support Palestinian rights and would never choose to live under a government that didn't afford them the special treatment they get in Israel. The only Hasidic group that is truly pro-Palestinian is NK, but they have a ton of other baggage.

[u/uuq114 → u/specialistsets]

By “baggage” do you mean problematic theology or politics?

[u/specialistsets → u/uuq114]

Both. They think the Holocaust was punishment for secular Jews and have associated with Holocaust deniers. They have cozied up to the government of Iran and Hezbollah. They are an extreme and bizarre sect, advocating for Palestinian rights is the only thing they're not wrong about.

[u/Bean_Enthusiast16 → u/uuq114]

I'm pretty confident they view the holocaust as a punishment from God because Jews weren't religious enough