r/JewsOfConscience • u/Welcomefriend2023 Post-Zionist • Jun 07 '24

Humor Amusing realization today

We are good friends with a Palestinian family that owns a supermarket here in the US, so we shop there regularly.

Today I noticed they had cheeses made in Monsey NY, with a hechsher of an antizionist rabbinical certification. I bought some for my daughter who keeps kosher.

I just find it cute that we buy antizionist Jewish products from Palestinians!😊

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '24

Good for you. This is how the future should be.

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u/BelaFarinRod Jun 07 '24

Which one is the antizionist hechsher? Or are there more than one?

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u/Welcomefriend2023 Post-Zionist Jun 07 '24

There's a few...Satmar is one. I forget the names but know them when I see them from habit.

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u/SexAndSensibility Jewish Jun 07 '24

Is the hechsher from eidah hachareidis? Or is there a satmar one?

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u/specialistsets Non-denominational Jun 08 '24

Assuming Satmar, while theologically anti-Zionist they still do business in/with Israel

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u/Welcomefriend2023 Post-Zionist Jun 08 '24

Rav Menachem Meir Weissmandl of Nitra, Monsey is the mashgiach.

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u/specialistsets Non-denominational Jun 08 '24

I don't think Nitra is explicitly anti-Zionist, moreso non-Zionist like most hasidic groups. they have a presence in Israel.

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u/Welcomefriend2023 Post-Zionist Jun 08 '24

There are many antizionist chareidim in the Holy Land. Their existence there as a group predates 1948.

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u/specialistsets Non-denominational Jun 08 '24

Yes but most are not anti-Zionist in the sense used here. They are theologically anti-Zionist (or non-Zionist) but actively benefit financially from the Israeli government, don't support Palestinian rights and would never choose to live under a government that didn't afford them the special treatment they get in Israel. The only Hasidic group that is truly pro-Palestinian is NK, but they have a ton of other baggage.

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u/uuq114 Jun 08 '24

By “baggage” do you mean problematic theology or politics?

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u/specialistsets Non-denominational Jun 09 '24

Both. They think the Holocaust was punishment for secular Jews and have associated with Holocaust deniers. They have cozied up to the government of Iran and Hezbollah. They are an extreme and bizarre sect, advocating for Palestinian rights is the only thing they're not wrong about.

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u/Bean_Enthusiast16 Non-Jewish Ally, Arab, Atheist Jun 09 '24

I'm pretty confident they view the holocaust as a punishment from God because Jews weren't religious enough

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '24

Just FYI, Whilst satmar are "antizionist" for theological reasons, they still do business / invest in and donate tzedaka / chesed funds to Israeli orgs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '24

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u/Welcomefriend2023 Post-Zionist Jun 08 '24 edited Jun 08 '24

Not a vegan, though I was yrs ago until I became type 2 diabetic from it, since the vegan diet is high carb (and yes, I "did it right"). Please don't push that crap here too. Its off topic.

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u/T-hina Anti-Zionist Jun 08 '24

Anti oppression is not off topic. I don't know what your health issues are and doubt very much that your diabetic condition was caused by plant based diet. But OC if you've been indoctrinated since birth that you need to eat animals and their secretion you would blame your heath condition on veganism. People on this sub clam to have conscious but that's a very convenient to stick to your beliefs where you don't have to change anything and lie to yourself that animals lives don't matter.

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u/Welcomefriend2023 Post-Zionist Jun 08 '24

I have debated with militant vegans in person and on other social media, and it is exasperating, annoying, and a complete waste of my time which is precious.

I don't care what you think or believe about my health but I don't argue with vegans anymore.