Ben-Gurion debunking himself that the indigenous Palestinians are the Jewish nation who weren't mistreated by Arabs. Later accusing them for "being forced to avoid their faith".

[u/Aljameel1]

[u/Aljameel1]

It is not about debating but more about awakening the brainwashed ones supporting this oppression in the name of "antisemitism". It is nonsense that murdering a foreign atheist zionist would be labeled as "antisemitism" meanwhile once the indigenous jew became a Muslim it is "okay".

[u/[deleted] → u/Aljameel1]

I think I get what you’re trying to say. There is a deep irony in that Ashkenazi Jews created a movement that ethnically cleansed a people who are the most direct ancestors of the Israelites and ancient Judeans. At least that’s what seems to be suggested from the Ben Gurion quote.

But your comment here doesn’t really logically follow and relies on a misunderstanding of the term, “anti-Semitism”

Feel free to clarify if I’m just not following

[u/Aljameel1 → u/[deleted]]

Exactly you got my point.. I understand the terminology of antisemitism in Europe and how christian Zionism is about seeking revenge from Jews. And how the terminology of antisemitism in modern history included conspiracy about Jewish Plans and so on.. Yet, the Jewish who converted into Christianity, and majority to Islam whose ancestors may have antisemitism themselves. Now being killed in the name of being "antisemitic".. meanwhile the Muslims don't even believe that Jesus was murdered not even to mention seeking revenge for him! That's why the middle east was their preferred destination. Yet Zionism made sure for a century to make every Arabian seeking for personal revenge from them.

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Ah okay I see what you’re trying to say. Yea I’m an Arab Jew and my family comes from Iraq and Palestine. Zionists have long tried to convince us Arab Jews that any kind of conflict or periods of oppression we experienced in the Arab world was exactly the same as what the Jews in Europe faced. To create this idea that Jews can’t be safe anywhere on earth except for a state where Jews are the only ones with power. But of course we experienced a much better life in the Arab world than the Jews who ended up migrating to Europe. Not perfect, but much much better.

[u/Aljameel1 → u/[deleted]]

Lavon Affair' עסק הביש ' It is an example of how Zionists were doing crimes against jews and foreigners in Arabian countries to accuse the Arabs of doing it, to accelerate the Jewish migration into Palestine.

The Egyptian theater and cinema in 30s, 40s is a great example of how Jewish were beloved in their Arabian nations.

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Yep. Mossad did some pretty evil shit. There was already tension in much of the Arab world around WWII and right after. All the European colonizers leaving left a gap in who got to be in charge, and some of the more radical Arab nationalist groups like the Ba’athists in Iraq who viewed us Jews with suspicion were trying to gain power. Then the Farhud happened in Iraq (which is when my family left), and then Mossad carried out those false flag attacks which created even more fear, and then in ‘48 after the Nakba many in the Arab world thought the Jews were all Zionist spies which created riots in some places and was the tipping point that led so many of the Arab Jews to come to Israel. But of course this wasn’t the case everywhere. The Moroccan Jews were quite safe and still welcomed in their country. They left because Israel offered them free property, education, and better jobs

[u/Aljameel1 → u/[deleted]]

I am glad that it is not hidden anymore. I would love to add that the middle eastern Jews once they crossed the borders into the occupied Palestine, the zionist authorities destroyed their papers so they weren't able to come back when they were shocked about what's really going on.

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a bit unrelated but can i ask how u feel about being called an arab jew? i’ve seen a lot of mizrahi jews get offended to be called arab jews and completely dissociate themselves from that identity despite sharing much of their culture and their parents/grandparents native tongue being arabic. would u say its due to arab racism in israel or anger bcos arab countries didn’t protect the jewish population from riots etc?