r/JewsOfConscience Apr 08 '24

History Devil in disguise

These are old videos of Netanyahu speaking in interview and speaking to US Congress. Notice how US did regime change in all of these nation which were a potential threat to Israel. in Iraq they never found WMD's, in Libya they killed a good leader Gaddafi(Libya abandoned their nuclear program decades ago innexchange for peace)and they can't touch iran because iran actually has WMD's program unlike Iraq & Libya.

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u/Alarmed-Eastern Apr 08 '24

He has played the US and it other allies for far too long

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u/justadubliner Apr 08 '24

The Israeli tail has always wagged the American dog. They boast about it.

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u/WarofJay Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24

"The tail wagging the dog" is an expression.

The phrase applies fairly well to several lobbies which have overt control of the US congress with measurable and significant detriment to longterm US/global interests and public welfare, e.g. the NRA, agricultural lobbies, the pharmaceutical and medical insurance lobbies (some of the worst for US citizens), the oil lobby (perhaps the worst for the globe's future), the military-industrial complex (outright global terrorism), and AIPAC.

The US has of course done many, many, many short-sighted, horribly unethical, and terroristic things that don't involve Israel. But simultaneously, the political elite of Israel have for many decades married themselves to the US military-industrial complex (as well of course as egregiously overfeeding their own) and have taken immense advantage of their position as a "close US ally" in arguably the most important theater of global geopolitics (at least from WWII to until the US found its own domestic oil reserves) to engage in unparalleled foreign propaganda warfare on the US public (it's really much more than Russia or China). I've been shocked to see the extent to which this perspective isn't discussed/common knowledge in Israel -- this absence seems to factor prominently into the culture of feeling scared of the world, historical exceptionalism, and a tendency to only value military "solutions".

The fact that this reality in the US has some superficial similarities with classic European antisemitism also really muddies the public discourse in the US and is a big aspect of the "weaponisation of trauma" which is a much more utilized tool when discussing the politics of unconditional US support of Israel versus the politics around other lobbies and topics.

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u/justadubliner Apr 09 '24

It means that Israel dictates US politics, both domestic and foreign, to a degree that is detrimental to the US and to the world.

The bleating sheep of US politicians have demonstrated this continously. Some states even dictate that businesses can't decide for themselves to boycott Israeli companies! They don't dictate that for American companies but they do for that one external country and no other !

This compilation of American presidential candidates in the last election all giving their Zionist talking points by rote is very demonstrative.

https://youtu.be/8KY2_qaROFY?si=uz9wq-LlpnqlOMW1