r/InternationalNews Nov 03 '24

Opinion/Analysis Why isn't Lebanon declaring war on Israel?

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u/PickleMortyCoDm Nov 03 '24

Lebanon's response to Israel's attacks have been so underwhelming, it really does need to be explored and understood more. I don't really understand it myself

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '24

Israel is bombing Beirut and bombing villages, murdering civilians. 

And you didn't watch the video, Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese government. 

If you had watched the video you'd know that the reason the Lebanese army is leaving defending the country to Hezbollah and other militias is for two reasons: because they have been bought by the west, and because they have been kept small and weak. 

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u/SnooBananas37 Nov 03 '24

Hezbollah is a "partner" of the government. If it was part of the government, it would answer to the chief executive, have a constitutionally defined role within the government and military structure of Lebanon etc.

There is no such thing. Hezbollah has a political arm that functions as a lobby, party, and voting block that influences the government, but there is no one in Lebanon (who isn't part of the leadership of Hezbollah) who can tell Hezbollah to stop making rocket attacks against Israel (which it has been doing since Israel attacked Hamas as retaliation for the Oct 7th attacks).

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '24

Hezbollah has ministers in the Lebanese parliament, they are part of the government.

Israel has been occupying parts of Lebanon and invading Lebanese airspace for decades, even since 2006 they continue to occupy and attack Lebanon. 

The US-backed far right regime of Israel is the aggressor in this situation. 

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u/kriznelrok Nov 04 '24

It’s disappointing how much of a hold the Israeli government has on capitol hill. Mossad has been a national security threat to the US for a very, very long time. But we still have pity for them since WW2 and let them get away with anything they want. Hopefully folks out there understand it’s okay to support the Jewish faith while also condemning Netanyahu.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '24

I'm Jewish and, like many Jewish people, I see Israel as an antisemitic project, that aims to implicate all Jewish people in a criminal settler colonial project. 

I don't think the US has pity on Israel, I think Israel is a US colony in the middle east.  

Yes, Mossad has effectively bought the US Congress via AIPAC. The US people have traitors in charge.

Edit: it's arms dealers who win, every time. It's arms dealers who want Israel as a US colony, and arms dealers who ensure Mossad can buy politicians to make sure Israel is a US colony.

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u/SnooBananas37 Nov 04 '24

Hezbollah has ministers in the Lebanese parliament, they are part of the government.

Again, they have no constitutionally defined role and have their own organizational structures distinctly separated from the government.

The US has the federal reserve that acts independently, but is defined by laws passed by Congress and can be dismantled at the pleasure of Congress. Hezbollah can not be defined as existing within Lebanon's government other than as a voting block. It cannot be dismantled, modified, or regulated by the government. Ergo it is not part of the government.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '24

You can say all of that about any political party. A political party isn't the US federal reserve. You're making zero sense.

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u/SnooBananas37 Nov 04 '24

Political parties don't have their own militaries. Political parties participate in government, but are not THE government.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '24

Yes, they do. Often. You need to get out more.  

 As to the second bit, yes? Hezbollah participates in government same as other political parties. People from different parties are in the government. Not sure what your point is.

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u/SnooBananas37 Nov 04 '24

Yes, they do. Often. You need to get out more.  

Ah yes I apologize, I was talking about actual democracies, not failed states and autocracies LARPing as democracies.

Hezbollah participates in government same as other political parties.

Political parties participate in government. They are not THE government, nor have it's own parallel authority. The head of the RNC doesn't have a private army, they don't operate outside of the law. If Congress passed a law regulating campaign finance, the Republicans cannot just ignore those laws and raise funds however they please. And if they do, those responsible will be prosecuted and suffer legal penalties.

Hezbollah does whatever Hezbollah wants. Hezbollah cannot be regulated or legally mandated to give up its weapons. There is no constitutional framework for settling legal disputes between Hezbollah and the government. It will use its army to maintain its authority against the wishes of the government of Lebanon.

Hezbollah isn't a political party, it's a non-state actor and paramilitary that also has a political party.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '24

Is this a parody comment? Are you being funny? 

The RNC has multiple militias, some members of whom staged an insurrection and went to prison for it. 

These militias do what they want, when they want and the US government has no ability to control them. 

Worse, the US government is more often than not, completely controlled by the RNC and their militias. They don't care about "constitutional frameworks". 

The RNC is a corporate-bought traitorous organisation that does what arms companies tell it to, and doesn't care about the good of the US people. Ditto the DNC, sadly, although they don't have militias.

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u/girl_introspective Nov 04 '24

You’re just lying at this point

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u/SnooBananas37 Nov 04 '24

Where's the lie?