r/InternationalNews May 12 '24

Palestine/Israel Israel Carpet Bombs Jabalia Refugee Camp

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u/NearABE May 13 '24

I’ll upvote you for the sentiment. But nonetheless committing genocide is not “terrorism”. Conducting an air strike and then circling back to bomb the emergency responders is called “double tapping” not “carpet bombing”.

No, i am not condoning double tapping. It is simply the correct term for this particular evil act shown in the video.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap#Double_tap_strike

The reporter was not speaking English so we would need fluent speakers to determine whether or not the report was inaccurate. Even if the speaker botched the terms the footage shows the story.

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u/stoner_woodcrafter May 13 '24

Well, I have to agree with you in the sense that this type of attack is clearly identifiable as a "double tap".

But when I mean terrorism, I mean it 100%, as what the concept really means. The terrorist could kill maybe only 1 person, if you think, as a number, it's not much. But the real harm caused is to the mind and the psychological aspect of it. If a lone wolf stabber kills a single person, it's already enough for all those people to feel like they are part of a target group, and then a single kill causes fear into who knows how many people.

When they bomb a single place that was considered a safe heaven, it doesn't really matter the numerical amount of dead people. Now, everyone will feel like there is just no safe heaven at all, nowhere. This is the real damage of terrorism, it targets the minds and the feelings, much more than the bodies

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u/NearABE May 13 '24

What you are describing is terrorism. It uses an act of violence or destruction to frighten or disturb a target audience.

An ethnic cleansing campaign attempts to completely remove the target population. The perpetrator does not want frightened natives. He does not want them there at all. Ethnic cleansing could be used as terrorism but that only makes sense if the target group is some other population. My gut feeling is that it is unlikely people from Tel Aviv are doing this in order to frighten arabs in Egypt or Arabia. Instead i believe the targets really are people in Gaza.

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u/lucasg115 May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

We could waffle on semantics all day, but I think you’re both right; it’s an ethnic cleansing via terrorism.

As you said, ethnic cleaning doesn’t necessarily mean killing, it just means removal from the area, and the international optics of defaulting to killing over displacement would obviously be way worse than they even are now. They’d be much more likely to be stopped by another country before they reach their goal.

It’s terrorism because they’re targeting areas people feel safe while saying “just move South, we totally won’t bomb you there,” repeatedly forcing them to flee until the population is concentrated in tiny areas at the border like Rafah.

They then have one final message: “Even though this is the final ‘safe zone,’ we’re going to start bombing it anyway. You can no longer go back North, and you’re starving because Rafah can’t support an influx of 10x the population while we’re blocking aid. You can either stay here and die to bombs or famine, or try to hop the border into Egypt. Either way, you won’t be our problem soon.”

This is obviously ethnic cleansing too. Whether they kill all the Palestinians or send 2M refugees to cause a crisis in some other country, they don’t care. All they care about is that they have murdered or terrorized all the Palestinians out of Palestine so they can set up condos and Starbucks shops.