r/InternationalNews May 03 '24

Opinion/Analysis Biden backs police repression against non-violent anti-genocide protests

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/05/03/dcxb-m03.html
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u/NoCeleryStanding May 04 '24

Honestly I will personally probably be better off under trump, so if all you rubes want to drink the Russian propaganda cool aid and let him back in office because "they are basically the same" then I guess go ahead.

But you are basically throwing everyone who isn't a wealthy white male American under the bus in a stand for idiological purity. I'll be voting for Biden because the alternative is so much worse for so many people.

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u/Riptiidex May 04 '24

the white liberal has always told voters and people of color to wait for a better season to protest. We have students being beaten, jailed, harassed, & our first amendment right stripped away and yet he’s supposed to be the guy we’re voting for?

Let me ask you this, your best friend’s entire family in Gaza was horribly killed while the Biden administration is funding & arming their killers, are you still voting for this guy? Hell no.

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u/NoCeleryStanding May 04 '24

Dude go ham protesting. Biden even said peaceful protesting is as American as it gets. You act like he is personally ordering local police precincts how to manage their affairs.

Let me ask you this, your best friend’s entire family in Gaza was horribly killed while the Biden administration is funding & arming their killers, are you still voting for this guy? Hell no.

Trump will be at least as bad, so yes, I'm still voting for Biden, because he isn't going to also trample on the rights of pretty much all minorities and women domestically. He is also substantially more likely to listen to those protests, rather than actually personally get involved in shutting them down.

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u/Riptiidex May 04 '24

i guess it really is hard for the average white male to sympathize and understand what minorities in this country go through. for you, its easy to just sit back & tell people how to protest a “correct way.”

fascism is already here, even under the biden administration. he is fueling fuel to the fire & allowing peaceful protesters to be beaten. sorry to tell you this but as a minority, i will not let other minorities be beaten, even by my own party. that must be a new concept to you but for a majority of minorities that’s reality.

and please save that “biden is not responsible” bullshit because when this happened under trump y’all were the first ones to blame trump about the beatings of protestors INCLUDING biden himself. Biden is responsible.

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u/NoCeleryStanding May 04 '24

Again, I'll probably be better off under trump. I don't get why you guys would vote against your own interests like I'm going to. If trump gets into power the Overton window will swing even further to the right, as if it's not already bad enough under Biden.

Protest peacefully. Civil disobedience can be part of that but be tactful about it if your goal is increased support for your cause, it's an inherent balancing act.

But come November you will have two choices. I'm not sure how anyone can see them as the same.

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u/Riptiidex May 04 '24

Because it is once again, not our fault Biden is throwing democracy out the window for a genocide. MLK warned us about white liberals using your exact logic, why can’t you see how inhumane and quite frankly, insane your logic is?

Fascism is already here, Dems just want to hide the fact they are while Republicans are at least up front about what they stand for. LGBTQ rights are already being stripped, abortion access is deteriorating, & what has Biden done? Has he used any leverage or threatened to withhold funding like other Presidents have?

You are not on our side. Who are you to tell protestors how to protest liberation?

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u/NoCeleryStanding May 05 '24

What in the world is insane or inhumane about my logic lol.

Biden has little to no power to protect LGBTQ or abortion rights without the aid of Congress, which he doesn't control. If you want those things protected federally you need to show up for Dems in November. If not it won't be just a loss in republican states, they are openly saying they will start enacting federal measures.

You are doing everything except the one thing that will actually impact your rights

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u/Riptiidex May 05 '24

yeah except the dems are creating police states, beating peaceful protestors & somehow yall are okay with it because “the other guys even worse!” Like yeah we know but dems are still fascist, you cant beat fascism with slightly less fascism.

Oh please, Biden has yet to even condemn or consider withholding funding from states. Its funny how Biden is so weak & yet Trump has unlimited power in your eyes. Dems have had all three houses & have failed us every time, why will they not this time?

Biden was genuinely a segregationist and yet he’s going to “save democracy.” What kind of shit is that.