r/InternationalNews • u/Passervore • Apr 24 '24

Opinion/Analysis Biden launches police-state crackdown at US universities

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/04/24/vcgw-a24.html
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u/ALittleBitOffBoop Apr 24 '24

So wait a minute, in America, peaceful student protest leads to arrest but the US promoting and instigating students in sovereign countries to commit extreme violence (molotov cocktails, setting cars and buildings on fire, etc) are to be encouraged and lauded? American government truly is the definition of duplicity

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u/HogarthTheMerciless Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

I'm just waiting for all the freeze peach conservatives to come out and defend this clear violation since they've argued time and again that not being allowed to speak on stage at college campuses is a violation of free speech... any day now right? 

Edit: not a clear violation of free speech, but neither is conservatives being deplatformed or not being allowed to speak at college campuses. To be clear you don't have the right to a platform, but that doesn't stop conservatives from complaining about it when they don't get access to one, and I won't be holding my breath waiting for them to apply their own logic to pro palestine voices. Read lawyer comment below me for breakdown of free speech laws and how they apply.

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u/ADKtuary Apr 24 '24

Not a conservative, but yes, sane people in the US tend to denounce most things this regime does.

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u/iDontSow Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

I am an attorney but also a leftist that opposes the genocide in Gaza and absolutely detests state sponsored violence like this on a moral basis, but I fail to see how this is a violation of these students 1A rights regardless of whether the university in question is privately or publicly funded. The university policies in question seem to be non-content based restrictions on the time/place/manner of the protest. If my understanding of the policy is incorrect someone please correct me with some citations to the university’s code, but otherwise this seems like a pretty straightforward 1A analysis. Again, I find it morally reprehensible but probably not illegal.

EDIT: I know I’m getting downvoted for this but if we’re gonna fight back against this bullshit we should at least understand it even if we don’t like it.

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u/Oppopity Apr 24 '24

It's not a violation of free speech. He's pointing out how conservatives get up and arms about any perceived threat against free speech like when someone loses their platform for saying a bunch of racist shit. Will they be applying their same logic here?

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u/iDontSow Apr 24 '24

And I agree with him on that point, but he did call it a “clear violation” of free speech.

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u/HogarthTheMerciless Apr 24 '24

Yeah, you're right. I don't believe that anybody has a right to a platform, I just don't trust conservatives who wine about being taken off a platform or stage to apply that logic to pro palestine voices. I was being a bit hyperbolic. Colleges allow the likes of TPUSA to speak on campus in the name of free speech, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for them to do the same for pro palestine voices. That's all I was getting at.

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u/iDontSow Apr 25 '24

Agree with you 100%. The hypocrisy is disgusting. Regardless of whether these state-sponsored crackdowns are legal, though, they are definitely terrible optically for the schools and the Zionist machine in general. These kids are brave and we should support them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

They know the protests at Columbia are spearheading an inevitable revolution and they're shitting themselves.

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u/sillytrooper Apr 24 '24

what revolution D:

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

You want a revolution? I want a revelation, so listen to my declaration: We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal.

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u/sushisection Apr 24 '24

including palestinians.

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u/horridgoblyn Apr 24 '24

It's that old animal farm paradox where some animals are more equal than others.

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u/Appropriate_Mode8346 Apr 26 '24

I say you give it 10 years and the democrat party will have different leadership.

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u/Arthreas Apr 24 '24

The one that's coming very soon

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u/BluCurry8 Apr 24 '24

Sure.

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u/Arthreas Apr 28 '24

How do you feel now looking at the news?

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u/BluCurry8 Apr 28 '24

How I feel does not really matter. The thought that a revolution will happen is childish.

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u/Arthreas Apr 28 '24

I have unfortunate news for you then, friend, it will only get worse from here. War is coming.

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u/BluCurry8 Apr 28 '24

No it is not.

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u/Arthreas Apr 28 '24

I hope you're right, all you can do is lead with love in your heart

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

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u/Arthreas Apr 25 '24

Sure am!

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

America is a liar. Always has and always will be. Period

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u/RoosterDesk Apr 25 '24

pack your bags. your outta HERE!!!

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u/mwa12345 Apr 25 '24

Haha...indeed Imagine if these were folks in Hong Kong , Teheran etc.

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u/Nanowith Apr 25 '24

That's just Vietnam War 2.0

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '24

This comment sums it up perfectly.

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u/Ok-Replacement9595 Apr 28 '24

Not only that, we have literal Nazis marching freely in the streets and the police stand there and protect their "free speech"

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u/Batbuckleyourpants Apr 25 '24

They are doing it on private property. That's the difference.

The university is under no obligation to host protests, especially when they turn violent.

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u/Asschild Apr 25 '24

Fine line between peaceful protests and intimidation and harassment.

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u/Optimal-Shine-7939 Apr 25 '24

Well, hate speech and the interruption of emergency services aren’t legal. When crackheads get naked and block traffic no one claims to have an issue with them being arrested…