r/InternationalNews • u/ObjectiveObserver420 South Africa • Apr 24 '24

International Blinken denies US has ‘double standard’ when adjudicating alleged human rights abuses in Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinken-denies-us-has-double-standard-when-adjudicating-alleged-human-rights-abuses-in-israel/
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u/AgentGrange Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

The case of Ukraine is totally different than in Gaza. The Ukrainians are not in any way a legitimate target the way Hamas is in Gaza.

That's funny Blinken, because actually under UN law the invasion of Ukraine is more legitimate as a military action between two sovereign states while the UN ruled that Israel does not have the right to "self defense" against a captive oppressed people with no sovereignty fighting for liberation. It's kinda ugh. Explicitly the opposite of what you said, you ghoul.

Blinken also stresses that “Israel has demonstrated the capacity to look at itself. This is what separates democracies from from other countries — the ability, the willingness, the determination to look at themselves.

Israel, famously a beacon of self awareness, introspection, and commitment to transparency. World renowned for investigating themselves while faithfully reporting the facts. If anyone is open to outside criticism and international scrutiny, it's definitely Israel!

The lies in the service of genocide are just so blatant at this point, I don't know how anyone could think this government is legitimate.

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u/Qqival Apr 24 '24

Allegedly, still waiting on the investigation results from Israel

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u/kuncol02 Apr 24 '24

Both are as Illegal, both are also probed for ongoing genocide. It's simply a lie that invasion of Ukraine was in any way legal.

Both are war of conquest by colonial empire.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

 Both are war of conquest by colonial empire.

Not even close

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

Yeah, not quite.

By calling the current Ukraine war a colonial conquest you display a stunning lack of awareness of the area's history and demographics.

The justification for Isreal is about a mystical fairy tale telling people that they once lived there, dozens of generations ago, and that they can go there and kill the people who actually lived there for dozens of generations, because the magical fairy told them they to.

While the justification for Russia's conquest is in no way good, and I'd much prefer Putin hadn't done it, Russia's ties to the territory and the people are real. The justification is several leagues above the fairy tale used to justify Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

Also they told the US and NATO that Ukraine was a red line but we went there regardless. 

Generals, ambassadors, and Secretary of States since Clinton through Obama said pushing eastward into Ukraine was a mistake and would start conflicts

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u/kuncol02 Apr 24 '24

Ukraine was conquered by Soviets and then Ukrainians were genocided. It's you who have no idea what Russians were doing to all nations neighbouring them from very beginning of existence of Russia.

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

You have your centuries mixed up.

Russia was a brutal colonial empire (quite unique is that it colonized by land instead of overseas, a model the Prussians later tried to emulate, ironically on Russia).

Israel is a genocidal colonial settler state.

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u/kuncol02 Apr 24 '24

Russia IS brutal colonial empire. Never stopped being.

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u/AnAlpacaIsJudgingYou Apr 24 '24

You mean after the Soviet Union conquered Ukraine and started a genocide?

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

Are you referring to reconquering Ukraine in 1943/44, or are you terribly confused?

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u/AnAlpacaIsJudgingYou Apr 25 '24

Talking about the entirety of Russel-Ukrainian relations

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u/No-Oil7246 Apr 24 '24

You guys really need a better argument than "only Jewish people can suffer genocide". Not only is it embarrassingly dumb, but it just makes no logical sense.

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

it just makes no logical sense.

It makes perfect logical sense, if you start with the assumption that there are different kinds of humans, and some are worth way more than others. Which those people absolutely do believe.

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u/The4thJuliek Apr 24 '24

There was somebody saying on this sub that because of the Holocaust, Jewish people will never be evil.

Hilarious, considering there are many Holocaust survivors who've openly called the subjugation of Palestinians by Israel evil.

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u/No-Oil7246 Apr 24 '24

Essentially is. Using the Holocaust as a defence of war crimes and possible genocide is sick and insulting to Holocaust survivers and victims of other genocides.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

It’s an occupied group. Not a neighbouring nation. You don’t even have a fact correct in this entire post. Bad bot.