r/InternationalNews South Africa Apr 24 '24

International Blinken denies US has ‘double standard’ when adjudicating alleged human rights abuses in Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinken-denies-us-has-double-standard-when-adjudicating-alleged-human-rights-abuses-in-israel/
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u/addicted_to_trash Apr 24 '24

Oh he denied it? Oh 😅 I was worried for a second

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u/cyranothe2nd Apr 24 '24

To be fair, it would be really funny if he just baldly admitted it.

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u/gaylordJakob Apr 24 '24

Honestly, I'd have more respect for him if just did that. Just stopped lying and pretending to have a moral high ground

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u/explain_that_shit Apr 24 '24

They prefer the respect of fellow mendicants

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u/horridgoblyn Apr 24 '24

Lying better would be more paltable. The lack of effort and stupidity on the part of "world leaders" leaves me more concerned, as well as understanding why the world is in the state it's in.

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u/addicted_to_trash Apr 24 '24

lol he's just like "Yea, can't you see we are trying to start WW3? I mean come on are we a joke to you?"

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u/HeWhoRidesCamels Apr 24 '24

Yeah, the US wants WW3. That’s why they urged Israel not to retaliate further to the Iranian missile and drone strikes.

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u/Mikeymike2785 Apr 24 '24

You know there’s public talks and behind closed door talks right?

Public talks are for grandstanding. “of course there’s no double standards!”

Behind closed door talks are more like “yeah, Israel’s going real hard right now, but we can’t talk shit about it because of how deep their hands are in our pockets”

👍

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u/HeWhoRidesCamels Apr 24 '24

Yeah, those behind-closed-doors talks I’m sure you’re privy to, lmao.

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u/Mikeymike2785 Apr 24 '24

Maybe I am privy good sir 🧐 “lmao” 🤪

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u/HeWhoRidesCamels Apr 24 '24

Considering your take is just the same thing this echo chamber of a sub spouts incessantly, I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re not.

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u/Mikeymike2785 Apr 24 '24

Bro I’m just trying to have coffee. Go be a non conformist prick elsewhere cuz idgaf 👍 both our opinions mean nothing. Have a good day 🤪

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u/HeWhoRidesCamels Apr 24 '24

Have a good one! If you spent any time in the real world you’d realize I’m not the one being a non-conformist. 🙏

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u/ClownshoesMcGuinty Apr 24 '24

"Yeah. We do. What are YOU gonna do about it?"

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

Thank GOD we have Anthony Blinken to clear the air on these kinds of issues….

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u/VanHammerslyBilliard Apr 24 '24

"We've conducted an internal review and found we've done nothing wrong"

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u/One_Instruction_3567 Apr 24 '24

They investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing, crisis averted boys, nothing to see here

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u/Unusual_Specialist58 Apr 25 '24

Israel accuses UNRWA of having terrorists leads to instant pause of HUMANITARIAN aid.

Israeli human rights violations are documented. “Let’s let Israel investigate before we decide to stop sending weapons”.

Clear double standard to me.

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u/AgentGrange Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

The case of Ukraine is totally different than in Gaza. The Ukrainians are not in any way a legitimate target the way Hamas is in Gaza.

That's funny Blinken, because actually under UN law the invasion of Ukraine is more legitimate as a military action between two sovereign states while the UN ruled that Israel does not have the right to "self defense" against a captive oppressed people with no sovereignty fighting for liberation. It's kinda ugh. Explicitly the opposite of what you said, you ghoul.

Blinken also stresses that “Israel has demonstrated the capacity to look at itself. This is what separates democracies from from other countries — the ability, the willingness, the determination to look at themselves.

Israel, famously a beacon of self awareness, introspection, and commitment to transparency. World renowned for investigating themselves while faithfully reporting the facts. If anyone is open to outside criticism and international scrutiny, it's definitely Israel!

The lies in the service of genocide are just so blatant at this point, I don't know how anyone could think this government is legitimate.

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u/Qqival Apr 24 '24

Allegedly, still waiting on the investigation results from Israel

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u/kuncol02 Apr 24 '24

Both are as Illegal, both are also probed for ongoing genocide. It's simply a lie that invasion of Ukraine was in any way legal.

Both are war of conquest by colonial empire.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

 Both are war of conquest by colonial empire.

Not even close

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

Yeah, not quite.

By calling the current Ukraine war a colonial conquest you display a stunning lack of awareness of the area's history and demographics.

The justification for Isreal is about a mystical fairy tale telling people that they once lived there, dozens of generations ago, and that they can go there and kill the people who actually lived there for dozens of generations, because the magical fairy told them they to.

While the justification for Russia's conquest is in no way good, and I'd much prefer Putin hadn't done it, Russia's ties to the territory and the people are real. The justification is several leagues above the fairy tale used to justify Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

Also they told the US and NATO that Ukraine was a red line but we went there regardless. 

Generals, ambassadors, and Secretary of States since Clinton through Obama said pushing eastward into Ukraine was a mistake and would start conflicts

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u/kuncol02 Apr 24 '24

Ukraine was conquered by Soviets and then Ukrainians were genocided. It's you who have no idea what Russians were doing to all nations neighbouring them from very beginning of existence of Russia.

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

You have your centuries mixed up.

Russia was a brutal colonial empire (quite unique is that it colonized by land instead of overseas, a model the Prussians later tried to emulate, ironically on Russia).

Israel is a genocidal colonial settler state.

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u/kuncol02 Apr 24 '24

Russia IS brutal colonial empire. Never stopped being.

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u/AnAlpacaIsJudgingYou Apr 24 '24

You mean after the Soviet Union conquered Ukraine and started a genocide?

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

Are you referring to reconquering Ukraine in 1943/44, or are you terribly confused?

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u/AnAlpacaIsJudgingYou Apr 25 '24

Talking about the entirety of Russel-Ukrainian relations

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

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u/No-Oil7246 Apr 24 '24

You guys really need a better argument than "only Jewish people can suffer genocide". Not only is it embarrassingly dumb, but it just makes no logical sense.

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

it just makes no logical sense.

It makes perfect logical sense, if you start with the assumption that there are different kinds of humans, and some are worth way more than others. Which those people absolutely do believe.

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u/The4thJuliek Apr 24 '24

There was somebody saying on this sub that because of the Holocaust, Jewish people will never be evil.

Hilarious, considering there are many Holocaust survivors who've openly called the subjugation of Palestinians by Israel evil.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

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u/No-Oil7246 Apr 24 '24

Essentially is. Using the Holocaust as a defence of war crimes and possible genocide is sick and insulting to Holocaust survivers and victims of other genocides.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

It’s an occupied group. Not a neighbouring nation. You don’t even have a fact correct in this entire post. Bad bot.

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u/JonEngelePhotography Apr 24 '24

Blinken is such a joke. This whole administration has shown with each new press conference they are always willing to go lower than you could have ever imagined

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

Yeah him and John Kirby. Like just when I think, “alright they have to address this properly” and they just word vomit absolutely dogshit about antisemitism, October 7th etc.

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

Remember when Trump was bad because he lied about everything?

Trump is still just as bad as he was before, a complete and utter joke. But the democrat establishment is no different, other than the mass slaughter.

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u/BPMData Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

Come on, man. Don't be like that. Have a heart, Jack. Biden's uncle just got eaten by some cannibals. Show the man some respect. If you don't know who to vote for, you ain't black.

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u/Jolly_Compote_4982 Apr 24 '24

The mass slaughter would have been the same under Trump but the democrats’ constant lying and double-speak, ignoring civil servants and experts, breaking our own laws, and ignoring, denigrating or blowing up global institutions from Amnesty International to the WHO and the UN has done me in. They took all the wrong lessons from Trump and I feel like a total fool for thinking that after covid/Trump, it would be different.

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u/thesilverbride Apr 25 '24

Im not sure. Trump seemingly has no filter so it might have played out differently.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 24 '24

If you can’t see the difference between GOP and Dems, or think Dems are complicit in Israel’s retaliation on Hamas you need some serious help.

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u/dewgetit Apr 24 '24

Biden is literally going around Congress to give weapons to Israel while he's pretending to admonish Netanyahu.

Not all Dems are like that, of course. There are some real good ones like Rashida Tlaib, AOC, Bernie, ... who speak up for the truth. But the majority of Dems also just voted to give Israel more billions for weapons.

The first 2 years of Biden's reign saw Dem control of House and Senate. Where was the bill to protect abortion rights?

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 24 '24

Not one of those Senators you claim are good have passed any meaningful legislation. Especially Bernie. Anyone can sit in Congress and pontificate and bloviate as they do. Not everyone can get stuff done.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

If only more senators were great at enabling genocide… 

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u/dewgetit Apr 25 '24

1) at least they're speaking up, as opposed to all the rest who see and then lie through their teeth about what's happening 2) when majority of the politicians are corrupt (this is true worldwide), difficult for the good one to accomplish much, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't support the good ones

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 25 '24

I agree many politicians are corrupt. But I don’t agree that everyone else is lying through their teeth about what’s happening. It’s just not as black and white as you wish it were. Hamas engaged in a terrorist attack that allowed Israel to retaliate. It forced Biden to side with Netanyahu who he hates. It forced the US to side with Israel because Hamas is aligned with Iran. The attack humiliated Bibi and that’s clear by his viciousness in retaliation. At this point everyone agrees Israel has gone overboard, the question is what to do. We don’t really know what is going on diplomatically behind the scenes, but as long as the US is giving aid to Israel they have to at least listen to us. Take away the aid and they don’t. If the protestors were asking for peace and for Palestine to surrender and give up the hostages the whole world would support them. Instead in their messaging they are supporting Hamas terrorists attack which people have real issues with.

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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Apr 24 '24

I can see the difference. Democrats pretend to care.

By the vast majority of their politicians participating - wholeheartedly - in the genocide propaganda, the lies, and the financial and material backing that is entirely necessary for this genocide to happen, the Democrat party is the one that purposely and deliberately orchestrated a genocide. Without Democrat endorsement this genocide wouldn't have happened.

Whataboutism doesn't work anymore after genocide.

Democrats are just as much an obstacle against a future where social values, honesty, and truth matter. Their purpose is to stop an actual opposition from forming, to absorb the Sanders votes and pretend they care about the same things.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

If anything democrats are worse because the gaslight and say how this is the best we can do.  

Republicans are straight up about fuck you unless you’re rich,  with some red meat thrown out for evangelicals

Both with for the oligarchs, Rs are somehow more honest about it. 

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u/Ethereal_Siren90 Apr 24 '24

"They both are going to bone you against your will, but democrats will use a bit of cheap lube so technically they are a better." Is all I hear when people try to tell us that democrats are obviously morally better than republicans.

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u/KalexCore Apr 24 '24

Democrats are the abusive spouse that convinced you they actually are doing their best and things are just tough right now but they really do care. They then take you to the Olive garden for an awkward dinner, leave the table early making you pay, and then gaslight you later while crying about how you're just using them. They then push you down the stairs and toss you some of the shitty baguettes to eat off the floor.

Republicans just beat you and say "you're married to me get the fuck over it or I'll give you something to cry about." They then offer you some heroine and a date going out to kick homeless people. They hurt you but at least you get to get royally pissed off and take out your anger on someone lesser than you.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 24 '24

“The democrat party is “purposely and deliberately orchestrated a genocide”. “Without their endorsement the genocide wouldn’t have happened “ Wow. That’s batsh*t crazy stuff. Why isn’t it if HAMAS hadn’t attacked Israel this genocide wouldn’t be happening? It’s forced Biden who HATES Bibi to support him as our ally, and bolstered Bibi’s regime at home. Strategically it’s the stupidest thing Hamas could have done. Yet here you are, defending them and pushing their propaganda against your own best interests.

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u/Ok_Illustrator_4708 Apr 24 '24

These days the US can't have double standards because it has no standards.

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u/TolPM71 Apr 24 '24

This part was fascinating.

“The case of Ukraine is totally different than in Gaza. The Ukrainians are not in any way a legitimate target the way Hamas is in Gaza."

Notice how any attack on Ukraine is framed as an attack on Ukrainians, not on Azov Battalion, or even the Ukrainian army but on Ukrainian civilians.

The opposite is done with Gaza, all attacks on Gaza are framed as attacks on Hamas. Blinken is tacitly endorsing the extreme Zionist position that there are no innocent civilians in Gaza.

This is not to say innocent civilians aren't killed in Ukraine or that there are no militants in Gaza. Just that, according to Blinken, all Ukrainians are innocent, and all Gazans are Hamas. Pretty wild that this was embedded in an "explanation" that the US has no double standards!

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u/thislife84 Apr 24 '24

Damn, good point

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 24 '24

Uhhh- because Hamas attacked Israel while no one in Ukraine attacked anyone.

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u/musingmarkhor Apr 24 '24

Uhh, Israel invaded and occupied Palestinian land while committing ethnic cleansing decades before Hamas ever existed.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 25 '24

There’s the problem! You’re getting all this disinformation off TikTok.

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u/thesilverbride Apr 25 '24

23 hours until you delete all your posts and disappear Bot.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 25 '24

I’m sorry. Did I hurt your fweelings?

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u/thesilverbride Apr 26 '24

Well, 11 hours in and still not deleted so not bad.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '24

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u/TolPM71 Apr 24 '24

Just as interesting seeing the response from fans of Israel, attacking anyone in Gaza, including women, children, medics, volunteers, you name it, is framed as "attacking Hamas", whereas attacking anyone in Ukraine, armed and fighting or otherwise, is framed as "attacking Ukranians". You certainly are a testimony to effective messaging on the part of the White House and the state of Israel. Their propaganda specialists must be very happy with their work.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 24 '24

Clearly you just make stuff up to fit your narrative and justify your position. You asked a question, the answer was pretty obvious but you keep trying to deny that Hamas has any complicity and try to convince people that the US is the guilty one. Unbelievably naive. Or worse.

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u/ClownshoesMcGuinty Apr 24 '24

You, on the other hand, reject any accountability by the US or Israel.

You asked a question, the answer was pretty obvious but you keep trying to deny that Hamas has any complicity and try to convince people that the US is the guilty one. Unbelievably naive. Or worse.

Folks, pay attention. This pearl clutching in a classic sense. Just a beautiful example.

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u/ClownshoesMcGuinty Apr 24 '24

More hyperbole AND putting words in my mouth.

Add victimhood to the mix now, I guess.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

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u/thesilverbride Apr 25 '24

This is a Bot so dont bother. Posts will be deleted shortly. They are everywhere now.

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u/TolPM71 Apr 25 '24

Point to the part where I said Hamas has no complicity!

I said, sure, there are militants in Gaza but that Blinken and yourself frame any attack by Israel in Gaza as an attack on Hamas, regardless of whether civilians were targeted or not and frame any attack on Ukraine as an attack on Ukrainians, not on Ukrainian militant groups or Ukraine's military.

I'd recommend re reading what I wrote, if I believed you were arguing in good faith. As I don't, you can relax and find something more productive to do with your time.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 25 '24

It’s so blatantly clear you’re a shill by your inflammatory and misrepresenting comments. Your words “Blinken is tacitly endorsing the extreme Zionist position that there are no innocent civilians in Gaza. “ “According to Blinken all Ukrainians are innocent while all Gaza’s are Hamas” “Israel is a terrorist, rouge state.” “Israel’s been actively trying to eradicate the people of Gaza” “Zionism is built on antisemitism and requires it for its existence.”

Then you accuse me of parroting “White House propaganda” on Israel.

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u/TolPM71 Apr 25 '24

Well, at least this disproves the thesis that you're a bot. Not much else though. Well done you for mastering the cut and paste function. Now get to the part where you're actually addressing the points of the person you're arguing with. It's a bit more complicated than simply repeating them verbatim and calling it a day.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 26 '24

So you don’t like when your own disgusting words come back at ya? So noted.

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u/TolPM71 Apr 26 '24

Nope, I don't mind. I wrote them, you just haven't shown they're wrong!

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u/dewgetit Apr 24 '24

Why did Hamas attack Israel?

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

Everything was perfect before 10/7

/s

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u/Infamous-Berry Apr 24 '24

Hold on who attacked Israel? Hamas or Palestinians? You’re missing the point entirely

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u/NewTangClanOfficial Apr 24 '24

Fuck this clown

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u/Hmmd1 Apr 24 '24

They are very good at supporting mass murder they have helped a lot of South American governments in the past.

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u/dxkillo Apr 24 '24

These guys are evil clowns. They will smooth talk, say flowery words and finally fuck you right in the ass.

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u/ShyShy_LDN Apr 24 '24

As if we dont have ears or eyes ....

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

Don’t worry, they’re banning tiki tok so we can only hear the truth (TM) 

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

The sheer gaslighting and narcissism isn’t worth the criticism at this point.

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u/notyourbrobro10 Apr 24 '24

A complete farce. I agree.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

Blinken is a lying hypocrite, and broadly terrible. News at 11

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u/DiogenesDiogenes1234 Apr 24 '24

Deny, defer, deflect

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u/You_are-all_herbs Apr 24 '24

Your eyes are liars not us

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u/Reddit_Sucks_1401 Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

The poor fool probably believes that in some sick twisted way. The imperialist mindset at its peak

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u/sparksevil Apr 24 '24

This is peak imperialism indeed. Time for some puts.

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u/ahaz01 Apr 24 '24

It amazes how these people can say such things and keep saying these things. What’s happening in Gaza is indefensible. What’s happening in the West Bank is indefensible. And we, the supposed light for democracy and human rights, are a party to it.

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u/thepinkandthegrey Apr 24 '24

Let's be real, the US has never been as big a supporter of democracy or human rights as it portrays itself to be. We've overthrown democratically elected leaders and installed monarchs (e.g. the Iranian coup) just so we and our allies don't have to pay more for oil. What makes Israel slightly different is that there's hardly even anything in it for the US (seeing as how Israel is trying to start WW3), other than having a nation that American arms manufacturers can sell their goods to in bulk.

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u/dewgetit Apr 24 '24

From a strategic perspective, Israel is there to keep the Muslim nations in that region under control. It acts as a counterweight, basically. That's why US unconditionally sides with it. That, and the strength of the Israel lobby in western nations.

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u/bananagarage Apr 24 '24

Sorry what was expected? Blinken, Biden, they’re all zionists… Israel could nuke the US and they’d be okay with it

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u/Wooden-Science-9838 Apr 24 '24

Not only okay but probably ask for forgiveness that they were nuked.

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u/SexualityFAQ Apr 24 '24

Well, Anthony Blinken can go fuck himself, except that he’s apparently too stupid to know where to stick his lil dick.

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u/Eighthfloormeeting Apr 24 '24

He is very familiar with every bend up Netanyahu’s ass.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

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u/thepinkandthegrey Apr 24 '24

It's part and parcel of the institution to to lie and bend the truth in this way, knowing full well the international community doesn't buy it for a second, outside a few sycophantic nations that'll agree with anything the US says. They don't even know why they lie anymore, other than it's what you're supposed to do when it comes to Israel. At one time support for Israel may have been strategic, but that's clearly not the case anymore when Israel is trying its best to start WW3. There's simply no good reason for the US to support Israel in this other than the fact that it's just what the US does, it's an institution, and the Biden administration is all about institutionalism--the institution must be unthinkingly preserved by any means necessary, ethics and self-interest be damned.

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u/thesilverbride Apr 25 '24

Avioding a war is 100% US goal; creating a broader war is 99% Israeli goal. This is going to get wild.

Just based on the expense and effort its clear Israel cant afford for Palestine to exist - Gaza needs to be gone. This is going be a US problem to solve, and the civil unrest at home is going to make it wildly hard.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 Apr 24 '24

If they say there’s Israel is committing genocide, US can’t sell / give weapons to Israel legally anymore

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u/heavymetalhikikomori Apr 24 '24

Well thats what we call a Lie 

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

He needs to get his lying arse to The Hague along with all the other warmongers

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u/Scared_Art_895 Apr 24 '24

Blinken is a Zionist.

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u/April_Fabb Apr 24 '24

It should be mandatory to always show an info table with all donors associated with a political person who is allowed to express their opinion on a topic.

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u/Boston_OFD Apr 24 '24

Israeli money has bought American politician's souls.

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u/musingmarkhor Apr 24 '24

Actually, I agree with him. The US government has the same standard when it also doesn't acknowledge its crimes against humanity in Iraq and Afghanistan and Guantanamo among others. This is on a bipartisan basis by the way.

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u/dewgetit Apr 24 '24

The book 1984 is truly prescient.

Concepts from 1984 + examples of it in real life today: - doublethink: enemies commit war crimes, allies are always justified - actions are judged based on the actor, and not the action plus specific scenario and result of that action - thought police /censorship: peaceful protesters arrested, expelled, sanctioned; people standing up for Palestine labeled antisemites. - negative nationalism: hate hamas,hate Iran, hate China, hate Russia - historical negationism: it's all Palestinians' fault, Israel is blameless

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u/BPMData Apr 24 '24

Joe Biden 🤝 Donald Trump 🤝 Anthony Blinken  

Not wanting me to vote for Joe Biden

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 24 '24

Sure. Let Trump take over again and deport every single Muslim in the US. That will show Biden!

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u/OssoRangedor Brazil Apr 24 '24

don't pretend to care for muslims.

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u/notyourbrobro10 Apr 24 '24

White people pimping minorities or marginalized groups to advance their interests is soooo tired.

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u/FreedomRider02138 Apr 24 '24

Wait! You’re not pimping Palestinians????

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u/notyourbrobro10 Apr 24 '24

I'm not doing anything to Palestinians. Not sure what you mean.

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u/Teddy-Bear-55 Apr 24 '24

It's true what someone said (and I paraphrase) that the shit floats to the top..

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u/sporbywg Apr 24 '24

The truth betrays his position, however.

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u/kdotismydad Apr 24 '24

Maybe timesofisrael.com isn’t the best source for this topic of conversation

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u/Ok-Anteater938 Apr 24 '24

Said the dual citizenship israel/usa pro genocide diplomat

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u/Gates9 Apr 24 '24

He can deny whatever the fuck he wants. Tigers still got stripes, and the United States clearly demonstrates a number of double standards in various facets of its foreign policy and in relation to the subject of human rights.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

He has been breastfed lies by Israel for the past 6 months.

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u/Yokepearl Apr 24 '24

Palestine has 100x more children deaths

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u/ImpressiveReward572 Apr 24 '24

Lol he's a brutal Zionist

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u/mayonaka_00 Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 25 '24

“In the case of Ukraine, when Russian forces withdrew from Bucha we were able to see very plainly what had happened. Each of these situations is different.”

Mass graves just recently found in Khan Younis, we were able to see very plainly what had happened as well. The signs of war crimes are there for you to see.

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u/BobsLakehouse Apr 24 '24

I mean they obviously do. 

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u/MaxxxStallion Apr 24 '24

Motherfucker cried when talking about Oct 7th and then went on to shrug about the deaths of Gazans.

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u/Agreeable-While1218 Apr 24 '24

Blinken just looks like the anti christ person. He certainly acts like one as does his nation.

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u/Tilmanocept Apr 24 '24

In other news: the sky is blue

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u/Neeyhoy_Menoy Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

Oh thank god! I was beginning to think that they thought that all Palestinians were less than human

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u/shanksisevil Apr 24 '24

definitely double standards.

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u/xarjun Apr 24 '24

Well, he would, wouldn't he?

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u/Turbulent-Today830 Apr 25 '24

Of course he does… coming from a bureaucrat who told the world; “im come to Israel 🇮🇱 not only as the US SECRETARY OF STATE, but as a JEW…”

Idiot!!!

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u/coreyjohn85 Apr 24 '24

The question of whether the US has double standards when adjudicating human rights abuses in Israel is a matter of perspective and debate. Critics argue that the US has a long history of shielding Israel from accountability for human rights violations, while advocating for human rights and accountability elsewhere. Some points that support this argument include:

  1. Consistently vetoing UN Security Council resolutions critical of Israel's human rights record.
  2. Providing significant military aid to Israel despite concerns about its human rights practices.
  3. Failing to condemn or investigate Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, such as settlement expansion and use of force against Palestinians.
  4. Applying different standards to Israel compared to other countries in the region, like Iran or Syria, when it comes to human rights and international law.

On the other hand, proponents of US policy argue that:

  1. Israel is a strategic ally and a democracy in a volatile region, deserving of support and understanding.
  2. The US has legitimate concerns about security and terrorism in the region, which inform its policies.
  3. Israel has a robust legal system and civil society that addresses human rights concerns internally.

It's important to acknowledge the complexity of the issue and the various perspectives involved. The US government's approach to human rights in Israel has been criticized by many human rights organizations, international bodies, and some US lawmakers, who argue that it undermines the universality of human rights and international law. Ultimately, the question of double standards is a matter of ongoing debate and discussion.

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u/TheLibyanKebabCaliph Apr 24 '24

This is a chat gpt like answer, not to accuse you of using chat gpt, but that the style of answer is pretty similar. All the arguments for proponents of US policy are about as shallow of an answer that chat gpt will give you.

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u/coreyjohn85 Apr 24 '24

Lama 3

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u/TheLibyanKebabCaliph Apr 24 '24

I could tell it was ai.

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u/Ok_Injury3658 Apr 24 '24

The complexity of the issue noted. When War Crimes are brought to the UN by a 3rd Party, your lengthy response is rendered nonsense. What is implicit in this nonsense is that the U.S. decides what is genocide based on strategic alliance rather than reality. The only complex issue that remains at this point is the degree of complicity by the U.S.? How does one measure that?

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u/coreyjohn85 Apr 24 '24

The United States measures its complicity in Israel through various means, including:

  1. Military aid: The US provides significant military aid to Israel, which can be seen as a measure of complicity in Israel's military actions.

  2. Diplomatic support: The US often uses its veto power in the UN Security Council to block resolutions critical of Israel, indicating support for Israel's policies.

  3. Economic ties: Strong economic ties and trade between the US and Israel can be seen as a measure of complicity in Israel's economic and political policies.

  4. Intelligence sharing: The US and Israel share intelligence, which can be seen as complicity in Israel's surveillance and security practices.

  5. Political rhetoric: US political leaders' statements and speeches can indicate support for Israel's actions and policies.

  6. Voting patterns: The US's voting record in international organizations, such as the UN, can indicate complicity in Israel's actions.

  7. Aid to Israeli settlements: The US's stance on Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem can be seen as a measure of complicity in Israel's settlement policies.

  8. Support for Israeli defense systems: The US's support for Israeli defense systems, such as the Iron Dome, can be seen as complicity in Israel's military actions.

These measures can be seen as indicators of the US's complicity in Israel's actions and policies, but it's important to note that the US-Israel relationship is complex and multifaceted.

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u/Ok_Injury3658 Apr 24 '24

Guilty as charged. Thanks. No complexity there.

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u/dewgetit Apr 24 '24

Don't know why you're downvoted. You're just presenting a fair analysis of the situation.

Just wanted to add:

  1. Israel has a robust legal system and civil society that addresses human rights concerns internally.

Only for its citizens. Palestinians are not, and are subject to military court where they have few rights.