r/InternationalNews • u/richards1052 • Apr 22 '24

Opinion/Analysis Israel attacked Iranian air defenses at nuclear power plant. Both nations are preparing for potential nuclear Armageddon

https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2024/04/22/israeli-attack-destroyed-iranian-nuclear-plants-air-defenses/
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u/anadoob122 Apr 22 '24

Hasn't Israel handily defeated their neighbors multiple times before?

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u/Starwolf00 Apr 22 '24

With unlimited financial, intelligence, and military equipment support from the U.S.

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u/anadoob122 Apr 22 '24

The US was not supporting Israel during the 6 day war.

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u/curebdc Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

True. But the French were and British. Israel's win there was still due to western support and their development of a rudimentary nuclear bomb. This was in the back of the other belligerents minds. 

All of israel is propped up by western support. From the twinkle in the zionists eye to today 

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u/anadoob122 Apr 22 '24

France supported the Arab states during the six day war, my dude.

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u/curebdc Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

True, France supported up until the 6 day war. Then France embargoes the region, mostly hitting Israel.

After the 6 day war, the US swaps as israels main squeeze.

IF the 6 day war went on for longer, it would have looked different. AND if they didn't have a nuke, thanks to Western support, it would have looked different too. But Israel gambled (with a nuke) and came out on top, drastically changing the region.

Don't pretend Israel had no support tho, lol. Basically, 6 day war shook up the region and catapulted Israel forward as the true occupiers and aggressors they are today. They gambled and they won thanks to already enjoying advantages that their neighbors didn't have.

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u/anadoob122 Apr 22 '24

Yes different conditions would have looked different, this is tautalogically true.

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u/curebdc Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

Right, like the West propping up Israel, enabling them to develop nuclear weapons. If that didn't happen, things would have been different.

You'd like to pretend the 6 day war happened in a vacuum.

6 day war was a shake-up for support, where gaps existed sure. However, you can't deny that Israel has enjoyed Western support at a scale unequal to anywhere in the region. A gap in this support doesn't mean they didn't have advantages.

You understand this. But you are arguing in bad faith.

Edit: I take it back I don't think they're arguing in bad faith for what it's worth.

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u/anadoob122 Apr 22 '24

I don't think I did, I only corrected some misconceptions. I think it is relevant to point out that Israel has more support now than it did during the six day war.

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u/curebdc Apr 22 '24

OK. That's fair. 6 day war was funky for sure. It's like a big shakeup of old western support to US support for Israel. There's wild embargoes, there's cold war stuff going on, massive tensions.

It's an interesting event for sure.

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u/curebdc Apr 23 '24

Yes, psst how did the cold war go?  So ya Israel had been propped up by the west while Arab states were encouraged by ussr and initially supported. That doesn't mean they were on equal footing.

 Ussr was no where near as powerful as the west and especially the USA. The idea that ussr was a threat to the USA was propaganda. 

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_and_the_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict