r/InternationalNews • u/ObjectiveObserver420 South Africa • Mar 23 '24

International Hamas denounces Moscow terror attack

https://english.palinfo.com/news/2024/03/23/316342/
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 23 '24

Hamas leadership along with many other world leaders extended its condolences for the barbaric attack on the Russian concert goers.

“We condemn in the strongest terms the terrorist attack that targeted civilians in Moscow, leaving dozens dead or wounded,” Hamas said in a statement yesterday.

Hamas offered its sincerest condolences to the Russian leadership and people, and the families of the victims and wished a speedy recovery for the wounded.

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

I'd never call Israel based, don't worry.

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u/Whole-Branch-7050 Mar 23 '24

Bruh i REFUSE to be the guy who condemns the atrocities happening in Gaza by Israel (as well as the atrocities committed in the past)

WITHOUT ALSO condemning the atrocities committed by Hamas towards Israel (as well as the atrocities such as bus bombings, shootings, stabbings, and even more bombings that the so-called resistance did in the past)

Why does this sub constantly “look the other way” when it comes to the Israelis killed? Is it because of pure rage & anger? Are u so mad & salty at those stupid zionists online hating on yall that you would rather ignore the suffering that occurred for the Israeli victims, than show sympathy for both sides?

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u/UnderstandingTop7916 Mar 23 '24

You would condemn the Warsaw uprising if it happened in your lifetime.

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u/Whole-Branch-7050 Mar 23 '24

No I wouldn’t. Because the Polish Resistance killed & fought against THE LITERAL NAZI ARMY!

And ONLY THE ARMY AT THAT.

Gimme sources that say the Polish Resistance killed women & children? I’ll sadly admit its a shame that one source i found tho says the some antisemetic Poles were responsible for killing a number of Jewish fighters who had joined the resistance after escaping being prisoners…

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

Why did you say 'so called' resistance?

What can you expect from such a violent occupation if not a violent resistance?

I will not condem actions taken in desperation except to condem the root cause, of which is the brutal Israeli occupation.

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u/Whole-Branch-7050 Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

I do not believe “resistance groups” should be slaughtering innocents.

In my country due to racial violence/tensions & discrimination, some members of my people, took arms & created their own liberation militia. To fight against the army. In doing so, they not only fought battle. But committed attrocities against civilians as well. Not my family tho. We either stayed put or fled to the West for safety & a better life. We never joined the militia. Also like saying u supported the militia could either get u bullied at school or worse…well killed.

Those who remained could still live a semblance of a good life, if u ignored the random government sponsored kidnappings, rapes & massacres in the North. In response, the liberation militia began a deadly suicide bombing campaign across the country that killed hundreds of innocent men, women & children. All killed because they were the “enemy”. And the more of these ppl were killed, the more likely it seemed the gov would quit & accept a peace treaty or some shit

…that didn’t happen.

In response, the gov began a final attack, bombing & killing of tens of thousands of my ppl. So many of whom are all dead….& for what? We rose up, we took hundreds of innocent “enemies” with us to the grave in suicide bombings, we failed, and we died a whole lot more.

Dear pro-palestine supporters. I speak as a sobered up Sri Lankan Tamil. If my government continues to escape prosecution for its crimes of genocide…a genocide hardly any of yall spoke up against. What makes u so sure this time justice will prevail?

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

A story as old as time. Brutal oppression leads to brutal resistance.

I can say your opinion on suicide bombings is based. That doesn't make everything you've ever done based. The same applies to when Hamas is based

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 24 '24

If you control the sovereignty of another's airspace, land crossings, imports, exports and just about everything else, you technically occupy the land. Gaza is both blockaded and occupied you potato.

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u/LordSpookyBoob Mar 24 '24

Do you condemn what Israel is doing 30x as much though? If you condemn both equally, you value Israeli lives as at least thirty times more valuable than Palestinian ones because Israel has murdered over thirty times as many civilians as Hamas has since October Sixth.

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u/thatretroartist Mar 24 '24

“I disagree with French colonialism, but we MUST also condemn Toussaint L’Ouverture and his barbaric terrorist attack on French living in Haiti”

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u/All-I-Do-Is-Fap Mar 23 '24

Dont u know these ppl cream all over hearing Osama Bin Laden’s voice too?

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u/FiveFootSevenn Mar 23 '24

Dude has more in common with us than the Rich billionaires and the spoiled Israelis.

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u/All-I-Do-Is-Fap Mar 24 '24

Id rather steal than kill bro

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u/FiveFootSevenn Mar 25 '24

Wait until you find out who killed all of Osama Bin Ladens family in front of his face when he was a boy.

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u/WurstofWisdom Mar 23 '24

*Hypocritical Hamas.

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u/TopolMICBM Mar 23 '24

No it's not hypocritical. Hamas attacked a people occupying and murdering their people. That's justified revenge. The CIA led and funded terrorists that attacked Moscow weren't fighting an occupation.

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u/vegetable_completed Mar 23 '24

Putin can’t stop the CIA from doing whatever it wants inside Russia even when it gives him advance warning about what it’s about to do. Grandpa is getting weaker by the minute. Sad.

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u/Distinct_Election_18 Mar 24 '24

Russia is literally occupying several countries right now

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Didn't... didn't they attack a concert...

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u/alex-the-great Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

A concert a few miles outside of a concentration camp* ftfy.

If Nazi soldiers and civilians partying with said Nazi soldiers were at a concert a few miles outside of Auschwitz, and were then attacked by Jews that had escaped from Auschwitz nobody would bat an eye about it and people would unanimously agree that it was justified. (Let’s not forget how the 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising is not condemned, nor should it be. They were fighting back against their genocidal oppressors)

Now take that same situation and replace it with Palestinians breaking out of the Gaza concentration camp to attack IOF soldiers and civilians partying at a concert just a few miles away from said concentration camp and everyone loses their minds. (Oddly enough, this instance is widely condemned even though Palestinians are also fighting back against their genocidal oppressors)

Now I can’t qwhite figure out why the two are situations are looked at so differently…

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u/alex-the-great Mar 23 '24

Look up the definition of concentration camp and get back to me with your newfound knowledge of the term also applying to Gaza and its people.

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u/alex-the-great Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 24 '24

Gaza is a concentration camp whether you want to acknowledge that reality or not. We’re also witnessing a holocaust in real time in Gaza as well but you won’t educate yourself on that definition either, you’re just gonna be an ignorant holocaust denier when it comes to brown people.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

The delusion is strong with you.

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u/alex-the-great Mar 23 '24

Nice rebuttal bro. Stay brainwashed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Anything for you senpai

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u/pitbullprogrammer Mar 23 '24

You would have better luck trying to reason with a brick wall than with these Hamas supporters 

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Fair enough

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u/pitbullprogrammer Mar 23 '24

That being said more power to you for speaking out. It means a lot to the Jewish community when we see people that still have some brain cells left

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u/AnAlpacaIsJudgingYou Mar 23 '24

Killing a thousand civilians is justified? And you have no proof that it was the CIA. How is plunging Gaza into another war justified?

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u/TopolMICBM Mar 23 '24

Let someone kill your family and then have them demand you not to hate them.

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u/AnAlpacaIsJudgingYou Mar 23 '24

Doesn’t justify killing a thousand of their civilians

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u/OfficialHashPanda Mar 23 '24

I agree that Hamas’ attacks on Israel’s military is completely justified, but are you seriously claiming their attacks on civilians are also perfectly fine?

Also idk where that conspiracy theory at the end is coming from, but that’s not relevant.

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u/WurstofWisdom Mar 23 '24

So a slaughtering/raping attendees and a Music Festival for peace is totally justified because of Israel occupation of Palestinian lands but ISIS attacking a Russian concert is condemnable despite their bombing of Syria and invasion of neighbouring countries? Some solid logic there.

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u/Live-Mess-1976 Mar 23 '24

What raping? You're way behind you propagandist.

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u/pitbullprogrammer Mar 23 '24

lol right because people partying at a rave were occupying and murdering Palestinians

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u/TopolMICBM Mar 23 '24

Just having a little disco party outside a concentration camp

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u/DarthHM Mar 23 '24

IDF shouldn’t have used partygoers as human shields on the border.

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u/Whole-Branch-7050 Mar 23 '24

Bro…when you make Israeli kids orphans because you gunned down their parents…thats not justified revenge

  • when you cause 3 children to die of suffocation in the arms of their parents because Hamas burned their house down, thats not justified revenge
  • when you shoot & kill a disabled Israeli girl in a mobility chair…thats not revenge
  • when you leave a poor 4 year old girl crying on the street because Hamas gunned down her father…thats not justified revenge
  • when you force an underage Israeli teen boy at gunpoint to lure his fellow neighbors hiding inside their houses to come outside, and then proceed to shoot him dead, thats not justified revenge
  • when u shoot an Israeli girl through a door, causing her mom, dad, little brother & sister to cry as they watch her bleed to death…thats not justified revenge
  • when you shoot & kill 4 members of the LGBTQ community (one of whom was only 19 years old), that is not justified revenge
  • when you kidnap an Israeli mom & her two baby boys to Gaza, knowing the deadly risks of being in that city, that is NOT justified revenge.

This stupid “tit for tat” game humanity has been playing since the dawn of time, has taken the lives of millions & millions of innocents worldwide.

And here you saying its “justified”. For shame bro. For shame.

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u/doritos1990 Mar 23 '24

Oh ya humanize the Oct 7 victims but who cares about every day since Oct 7 and since before Oct 7 right?

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u/Glittering_Oil_5950 Mar 23 '24

Why don’t Israeli civilians deserved to be humanized? They are just as human as the tens of thousands of people Israel has murdered.

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u/doritos1990 Mar 23 '24

No one has ever dehumanized them.

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u/Glittering_Oil_5950 Mar 23 '24

https://www.reddit.com/r/InternationalNews/s/QBdZJ5E1YK

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u/c9-meteor Mar 24 '24

What’s this proving?

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u/Glittering_Oil_5950 Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24

“no one ever dehumanizes them [Israeli civilians].”

Now take that same situation and replace it with Palestinians breaking out of the Gaza concentration camp to attack IOF soldiers and civilians partying at a concert just a few miles away from said concentration camp and everyone loses their minds. (Oddly enough, this instance is widely condemned even though Palestinians are also fighting back against their genocidal oppressors)

Nope, no violations of international law that could be seen as morally deplorable here according to this expert. Those Israeli kids were asking for it! Anyone who criticizes me must be a Zionist Nazi who loves watching Palestinians die.

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u/Ravmagn Mar 23 '24

How many rubles are you paid per moronic comment?

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u/TopolMICBM Mar 23 '24

I wish I was paid

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

What the hell do you think Russia is doing in Ukraine right now?

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u/prrreet Mar 23 '24

I don’t think Ukraine was responsible for this attack

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u/Stensi24 Mar 24 '24

Nah definitely not. Ukraine doing this is like 10th on the list behind a false flag.

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u/TopolMICBM Mar 23 '24

War.

But this attack was coordinated by the US most likely.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Lolwut

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

Hamas = resistance to a violent occupation.

ISIS = terrorist organisation that happens to be funded by the same people as Isntreal

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u/WurstofWisdom Mar 23 '24

Sure buddy, and Putin is a legitimate president and North Korea is a peaceful utopia. Anything else I’ve missed?

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u/prrreet Mar 23 '24

Many countries (those with ok Russia relations e.g. India and China) do recognise Putin as a legitimate president. I think people mostly believe whatever their government and media reports as the truth. But that truth differs depending on where you live.

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

DPRK total foreign invasions in entire history = 1 (and technically it was a Civil war).

Common DPRK win

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u/WurstofWisdom Mar 23 '24

The treatment of their own people can be therefore disregarded?

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

No, but the relevance of DPRK to our conversation is alluding me?

Also. If you want the people of DPRK to eat, then the inhumane sanctions lead by the US need to end. The only reason to sanction farm equipment is to cause suffering of the innocent.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Their communist utopia would only work if they had access to the west!!!

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

If you think US sanctions only prevent trading with the West, you have a lot to learn.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

You’re mad that we don’t want to do business with you communist losers or anyone who wants to associate with you. Have you tried eating the rich yet?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24

Actually vile how this got downvoted, did people just wipe October seventh from their memory?

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u/whoopercheesie Mar 23 '24

Russia has killed more arabs than Israel has. 

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

Source that big fella

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u/whoopercheesie Mar 23 '24

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-killed-thousands-civilians-syria-civil-war-military-intervention-a8562901.html

I'll wait for comment 

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

Thousands of civilians unfortunately does not equal more than Israel.

Wanna provide some source to your actual claim? I can link a thousand articles that says Israel killed thousands of civilians as well.

The literal title of your article is 10 000 less than Israel has killed this month...

I'll wait for your comment...

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u/whoopercheesie Mar 23 '24

Literally under the title: 

But Russia says it killed 85,000 people in Syria since 2015, and none were civilians. At least 112 Russian military personnel also killed. 

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace Mar 23 '24

Do I really have to read for you as well?

Your article claims Russia killed 18,000 civilians. Underneath it says Russia says it killed 85,000 combatants, no civilians.

Even if they were all civilians (which even your article says is not true) that wouldn't be more than Israel now would it?

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u/RightClickSaveWorld Mar 23 '24

What the hell is wrong with this subreddit. Is there one for world news that isn't busted?