r/InternationalNews South Africa Mar 23 '24

International Hamas denounces Moscow terror attack

https://english.palinfo.com/news/2024/03/23/316342/
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u/HyGrlCnUSyBlingBling Mar 23 '24

Is it known who the attackers were?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Also ISIS is literally hated by the whole Muslim world and many Muslim countries fight them and kill them, it's safe to say they are Imposters that like to cosplay as Muslims for god knows what reasons.

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u/lgot_hacked Mar 24 '24

they use islam to fool misguided muslims into thinking "jihad", as described in the holy quran, includes killing innocents.

the word jihad means to struggle to do a good deed.

like if i work and i struggle, thats jihad.

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u/Pandathesecond Mar 24 '24

Being nice to the elderly when they're being difficult, big jihad.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24

Isis was literally created by the US. There’s pictures of isis leadership sitting with US politicians from many years ago.

They have state of the art US weapons.

Their take over was possible because of the US destabilizing the levant with their illegal war.

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u/dummypod Mar 24 '24

We hate the US and hate ISIS, but we don't need to make up conspiracy theories to further disparage them. There's already plenty of reasons to diss on the US, no need to make up fictional ones

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u/Formal_Decision7250 Mar 24 '24

The "Isis is a US invention" meme was started by Russia, mostly because both countries were involved in Syria. And the US was assisting rebels there.

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u/For-a-peaceful-world Mar 24 '24

The US propped up Bin Laden to fight the Russians in Afghanistan.

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u/Formal_Decision7250 Mar 24 '24

The US propped up Bin Laden to fight the Russians in Afghanistan.

To an extent.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen

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u/cryptoguerrilla Mar 26 '24

That’s not fake. We (U.S.) were fighting ISIS in Iraq while supplying them with weapons and logistics in Syria.

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u/unnatural_rights Mar 24 '24

Isis was literally created by the US. There’s pictures of isis leadership sitting with US politicians from many years ago.

Care to share?

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u/googleuser2390 Mar 24 '24

It wasn't.

He's just repeating a popular conspiracy theory without knowing anything about where it came from or why it's ridiculous.

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u/unnatural_rights Mar 24 '24

That's my suspicion as well, but I'm always curious to see if folks will actually engage when called out on prima facie lies like this.

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u/-kerosene- Mar 24 '24

It totally exists and he’s seen it, he just can’t find it right now.

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u/Formal_Decision7250 Mar 24 '24

It totally exists and he’s seen it, he just can’t find it right now.

"I don't have time for this but if you google it and do your on resuurch you'll see its true"

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u/TrueLiars207 Mar 24 '24

I saw that picture years ago when conspiracy theorists were running around with it. A guy that looks like the leader of the murder-cult standing with US officials. Keyword “looks like”. Everyone has someone that looks like them somewhere in the world.

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u/Formal_Decision7250 Mar 24 '24

There are some images of Regan with some Mujahideen.

But nothing more recent afaik.

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u/Monterenbas Mar 24 '24

Isis was literally created by the US. There’s pictures of isis leadership sitting with US politicians from many years ago.

Can we see this picture?

They have state of the art US weapons.

Maybe cause the Iraki army run away, like a bunch of chickens, abandoning all their US made weapons?

Their take over was possible because of the US destabilizing the levant with their illegal war.

You mean Bashar el Assad plunging Syria into a civil war, that allow salafists groups to gain power and territory, coupled with Shia irakis, persecuting the Sunni minority, wich then led to the rise of ISIS?

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u/Mei_Flower1996 Mar 24 '24

"god knows what reason" because they are Western plants to make Muslims look bad

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u/Monterenbas Mar 24 '24

I dont think the Muslims need any help for that.

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u/TrueLiars207 Mar 24 '24

That’s absolutely true, all Muslim countries hate and kill isis. They are nothing short of a death cult going around killing innocent people no matter their religion, race or politics.

They are considered outside the fold of humans, by the entire Muslim World. A virus that has yet to be eradicated and lays dormant until their next strike at a market place or hotel or gathering of women, children and families.

It’s like a collection of mentally ill mass shooters that the age of internet has bought together.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '24

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '24

Yeah IDF is indeed subhuman trash I do agree with u

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u/kingacesuited Apr 06 '24

Rule 1, be civil.

Civility

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

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u/starxidiamou Mar 23 '24

Considering you don’t know what you’re talking about that makes sense.

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u/MkarezFootball Mar 24 '24

Suicide is one of the biggest sins lol

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u/speakhyroglyphically Mar 23 '24

At least one attacker has been confirmed by Russia to be a Ukrainian citizen

Do you have a source for that? I looked but cant find that anywhere

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u/waterfuck Mar 23 '24

Some fake photo collage that is spreading like wildfire on the "america bad" side of the web.

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u/Visible-Mixture-6072 Mar 23 '24

Can you back up the Israel hospital thing? Sounds interesting

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u/ThrownAwayAndReborn Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24

Here is an article in 2015 in the Israeli Times with government officials admitting directly aiding the Al-Nusra Front, a terrorist organization with the goal of overthrowing the Syrian government and establishing the "Islamic State".

Here is a Daily Mail article from 2015 speculating on the political and strategic reasons why Israel would aid this group of terrorist militants.

The "why" of the matter is largely speculative, but it is outright admitted and logged into the historical record that they aided these groups.

Edit: u/TrueLiars207 is a hasbara account with< 10 karma

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u/crappysignal Mar 24 '24

There were 10s of groups fighting at the beginning of the Syrian civil war.

Funded by the UK, France, US, Israel, KSA etc.

ISIS didn't exist at that point.

Israel did at times appear to have at minimum agreements with Daesh. After all they share common enemies in Iran and Syria.

The US allowed them to rape and pillage for the same reason. Russia were the only country to fight them because they Assad's a close ally and Daesh was very Chechen.

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u/TrueLiars207 Mar 24 '24

You really have no clue of what actually happened in Syria.

Al-Nusra went to war with ISI (Islamic state in Iraq) who came in from Iraq to usurp the nusra front. A war broke out and isi got a footing in Syria and became ISIS (Islamic state in Syria and Iraq).

ISIS declared everyone that’s not them heretics and went on a killing spree of Muslims and non-Muslims around the world.

Most ISIS victims are Muslims.

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u/OutsideFlat1579 Mar 23 '24

Bullshit. Putin was warned about the threat if an attack from IS and did nothing to warn Russians. Are you seriously going to believe this is the work of Ukraiwjen it is absolutely not the kind of attack they would make? 

Are you also not aware that IS considers Russia enemy number one? That when Russia started to support Assad in Syria they hobbled IS? That Russia has been helping governments in multiple African countries to fight IS? That IS has already taken responsibility for the attack? 

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u/wishtherunwaslonger Mar 23 '24

Israel didn’t give money. They allowed other countries to give money. Isis propped up by the US lmfao.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. Do you just read conspiracies all day and hold them as fact?

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u/Past_Performer_5224 Mar 23 '24 edited Mar 23 '24

With Julian Assange, a long-time whistleblower targeted by the CIA for doing said whistleblowing, having reported so according to classified US cable communications leaked over at WikiLeaks, there is reason to believe this. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

It’s not made up. It’s true, ISIS is a tool for the west.

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u/0reosaurus Mar 23 '24

Sauce?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Do I need to? 💀

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u/i_support_jews Mar 23 '24

Yeah yeah, and September 11 was an inside job and the moon landings were fake. Have another cone you clown.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

No aluminum tin foil hats for me. I’m simply giving my take on the situation.

ISIS is being used as a tool by the US to attack their enemies. The west cannot go into direct conflict with their enemies as it could cause an all out nuclear war, killing everyone.

The US want to weaken Russia, their economic sanctions and strategies so far have not worked. Recently, Russia changed their opinion on what they’re calling the situation with Ukraine. They’re now calling it a war, so the US have struck back with a terrorist attack.

Russia is not innocent however, they have also tried recently to do the same with Iranian terrorists being sent across the Mexican border. The US caught them however.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

You’re angry that your country is not innocent, I get it. No country is innocent, it’s fine. The west control the world’s media, that’s why you think I’m dumb.

If you don’t realize that this is the high level game of politics and don’t attempt to understand the meanings of these happenings; then sorry, you my friend, are an intelligent person who cannot think for themselves.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

I’m not saying that you don’t have access to the internet. I’m saying that the internet does not provide a clear image of what is really happening in the world.

The media is controlled by the west, whatever propaganda they want to push, they can push. I can clearly see this from my point of view.

I’m not saying that the subreddit is a high level game. I’m saying that the occurrence that happened in Moscow isn’t random terrorism like people portray it to be. It is terrorism sponsored by the United States Of America, this is clear to me.

I am not racist against Jews or Ukrainians. As a matter of fact, I couldn’t care less what is happening to Israel, Palestine, Russia or Ukraine. I only care for my country and for innocent lives in all conflicts around the globe.

I don’t agree with you being downvoted, as a matter of fact, I have been upvoting you lol. I don’t think people’s opinions should be suppressed, I enjoy debating and think it’s important for brain development and health. If I don’t debate with you, you will forever listen to your bias media and you will turn into a robot with no mind for your own.

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u/populism_or_nopulism Mar 23 '24

Get tf off the internet and read a book.

It’s not as cool and edgy as spewing 16 year old “deep” Reddit doctrine. But it’s worth it for the critical thinking benefit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

Why do you result to insulting me rather than having a debate or conversation so that we could discuss what truly is happening. This is the backbone for critical thinking, don’t you think? Please, tell me your take on the situation and I’ll tell you mine.

My thinking is purely logical, I do not bring my emotion into politics like most do. Critical thinking and not just listening to your local news outlets are important when trying to understand the situation of the world.

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u/populism_or_nopulism Mar 26 '24

You can cloak your biases in proper speak. Doesn’t make it true.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24

it’s true and fact

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u/populism_or_nopulism Mar 26 '24

Speaking in absolutes. The mark of an undeveloped mind. Cite your sources kiddo.

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u/AdTemporary5481 Mar 23 '24

Nothing in that statement is made up....it was just not front and centre in CNN or MSNBC.....where you go get your brain rot.

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u/Zealousideal-Talk-23 Mar 23 '24

trust him bro, he have a tin foil hat, he know

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u/CCP-SENT-ME-HERE Mar 23 '24

bullshit!Rustam Azhiev (is the Deputy Commander of the Ichkerian Forces in Ukraine

He’s a famous Chechen & doesn’t speak Tajik, unlike the alleged terrorist that got arrested after y-day’s attack in Moscow

The amount of ppl ready to parrot any Russian fake news is astounding

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u/ThrownAwayAndReborn Mar 23 '24

I'm not sure I even understand what you're saying. You're telling me it's fake news and your evidence is that the terrorist is multi-lingual.

The Russians actually have the terrorists captured. Their intelligence is presumably the most accurate until proven otherwise.