r/AskHistorians 7h ago

FFA Friday Free-for-All | December 27, 2024

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Previously

Today:

You know the drill: this is the thread for all your history-related outpourings that are not necessarily questions. Minor questions that you feel don't need or merit their own threads are welcome too. Discovered a great new book, documentary, article or blog? Has your Ph.D. application been successful? Have you made an archaeological discovery in your back yard? Did you find an anecdote about the Doge of Venice telling a joke to Michel Foucault? Tell us all about it.

As usual, moderation in this thread will be relatively non-existent -- jokes, anecdotes and light-hearted banter are welcome.


r/AskHistorians 2d ago

SASQ Short Answers to Simple Questions | December 25, 2024

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Previous weeks!

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r/AskHistorians 36m ago

Jesus was a Jew. What religious group did Muhammad belong to?

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r/AskHistorians 11h ago

What was a well established fact/assumption about history that was decisively debunked by new evidence?

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r/AskHistorians 5h ago

In the Odyssey, why didn't the majority of the suitors leave after a few years?

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In the Odyssey why didn't the vast majority leave to find wives elsewhere when it became clear Penelope was dragging her feet and not choosing a husband anytime soon? There had to have been plenty of princesses and noble daughters or widows all around ancient Greece at the time. It would be better than hanging around for twenty years with increasingly hostile competition.


r/AskHistorians 3h ago

It’s 0 AD and I’m flying in a plane trying to measure shipping density, what am I seeing?

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I’m trying to picture what the seas looked like activity wise. It’s 0 AD (or 0 BC?), basically when all the clocks flipped to 0. I’m flying in a plane over the northern Red Sea, then along the Gulf of Suez, across Sinai and continue north along the coast of the Eastern Med. I’m flying high enough to count shipping density. Just ball parking for example: what would I find in these regions? Not during wartime per se. (Would they have rescued each other if needed? Was there maritime law enforcement?)

Silly example: North Red Sea. 50 merchants per sq nmi or sq km, (any additional info welcome, eg Mostly Nabateans headed back with papyrus)


r/AskHistorians 39m ago

How bad were the living conditions in Rome for slaves? NSFW

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I just watched Gladiator 2, and I want to know in detail all the different hardships slaves faced and how people owned them and looked at them. I feel like that whole era was the worst time ever to be a slave or just human in general.


r/AskHistorians 5h ago

Where did our ideas of the fae not being to touch iron, to lie, needing an invitation etc. originate?

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It's a common trope in modern/urban fantasy. The fae can't touch iron without it burning/hurting them, they can't enter a house without an invitation, they can't outright tell a lie and so on. But where did these tropes originate? I heard somewhere that king Solomon supposedly used an iron sword to bind/abjure demons in the construction of his temple, so is the idea of iron being anathema to fae/elves etc a result of Christianity trying to paint old pagan beliefs as devil-worship?

Similarly, I remember reading a translations of Goethe's Faust where Mephistopheles mentions devils, ghosts and the like can only enter a house once invited, and can only leave the house by the same door, but older myths and legends don't seem to have any requirement for fae and supernatural creatures to need an invitation to enter.

How recent are these additions to the myths? Do we know where they sprang from?


r/AskHistorians 17h ago

Why is the Trojan Horse / Fall of Troy not mentioned in The Iliad?

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Embarasssing for me, as someone who never "studied the Classics", I didn't realize that the Trojan Horse was barely mentioned by Homer, let alone how the war ended. Not asking about historicity etc., but why would Homer choose to end his epic with the death of Hector rather the fall of Troy? Especially given The Odyssey gives it minimal mention as well.

In the modern story telling sense, the obvious end is the fall of Troy and death of Achilles, which makes it seem as if we're missing some great tome by Homer between the two poems. Or perhaps the story was so well known into the 5th-8th century BC that the Horse and fall of Troy wasn't exciting to the audience. The absence is curious!


r/AskHistorians 1d ago

I read a claim that the 40-hour work week had been conceived with the assumption that a spouse would be around to handle other tasks such as cleaning, cooking, caring for children and shopping, and therefore it has become outdated. What is the historicity of this claim?

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r/AskHistorians 7h ago

Did Hitler plan to ultimately turn on his allies in Europe? (Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, etc)

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What was Hitler's long term plan for southeast Europe?


r/AskHistorians 13h ago

Amadeo Avogadro always gets memed for that one ghastly portrait. Was he really considered ugly by his contemporaries?

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When talking about Amadeo Avogadro, historical Italian chemist, he is most often depicted by that one portrait where he looks like a goblin. Was that just a bad portrait or was he really considered notably ugly by people who met him?


r/AskHistorians 1h ago

How ‘ritualized’ was Mesoamerican warfare prior to the colonial era, and how did it differ from Spanish traditions of warfare?

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In When Montezuma Met Cortés, Matthew Restall notes the following about Mesoamerican traditions of warfare:

Contrary to the Aztecs’ reputation for bloodthirstiness, they shared with other Mesoamericans a culture of warfare that was bound by a war season, by rules of conduct, and by an emphasis on individual combat and ritualized killing. (The Aztecs and the Tlaxcalteca Triple Alliance even seem to have engaged in so-called Flower Wars, in which the unpredictable chaos of open battle was replaced by hand-to-hand combat and negotiated casualties.) Unlike the Iberian Peninsula, the Mexican countryside was not studded with castles and fortified towns; by and large, both urban and rural populations did not need to live in fear of sudden attack, slaughter, and enslavement—not until 1519, that is.

Restall says this about Aztec and Tlaxcalteca warfare close to the contact period, but I’m wondering if this extends to other Mesoamerican groups and in other eras as well?


r/AskHistorians 18h ago

My uncle was killed in action 26 Nov 44 while serving with USArmy 377th Infantry 95th Div. We always thought he died in Nancy, France (I believe there’s a letter from Army stating such) but his unit and company was clearly in Battle of Metz. Anyone able to provide insight into discrepancy?

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r/AskHistorians 2h ago

Why is it called: "the Revolution devours its own children"?

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In most cases, wouldn't the people initially being "devoured" be the "parents" of the revolution, setting in motion the rhetoric, zeitgeist, etc for violence to be an acceptable solution for dissidents. The early generation revolutiononaries then gets outflanked by newer generations.

Should it not be: "The children of the revolution devour its parents"?


r/AskHistorians 1h ago

Coffee has the café, tea has the teahouse, alcohol has the bar or pub. Were there other venues of similar social importance centered around other kinds of drink or foods?

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r/AskHistorians 1h ago

Friends & Friendship In the Superman Radio Show, during the Atom Man arc (1945) Supes/Clark talks to a friendly Soviet officer to try and foil a Nazi scientist. Would this have been unusual in Western pop culture at the time? When, if ever, was it seen as taboo to portray 'The Reds' positively in pop culture post WWII?

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Was there an official policy handed down from above, or was it just a socially enforced taboo? "Don't wanna be seen as a commie sympathizer right?'


r/AskHistorians 21h ago

The myth of Hermaphroditus features what is, at least to our modern senses, a case of sexual assault. Did the ancient Greeks or Romans have any conception of the idea that a woman could sexually assault a man or boy? Do we have any examples of pre-modern societies believing as such? NSFW

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I am sorry if this question is too broad, but I was curious. For context - I was reading Ovid's metamorphosis, and came across the story of Salmacis and Hermaphroditus:

Then she was truly pleased. And Salmacis was inflamed with desire for his naked form. The nymph’s eyes blazed with passion, as when Phoebus’s likeness is reflected from a mirror, that opposes his brightest unclouded orb. She can scarcely wait, scarcely contain her delight, now longing to hold him, now unable to keep her love to herself. He, clapping his open palms to his side, dives into the pool, and leading with one arm and then the other, he gleams through the pure water, as if one sheathed an ivory statue, or bright lilies behind clear glass. “I have won, he is mine”, the naiad cries, and flinging aside all her garments, she throws herself into the midst of the water

She held him to her, struggling, snatching kisses from the fight, putting her hands beneath him, touching his unwilling breast, overwhelming the youth from this side and that. At last, she entwines herself face to face with his beauty, like a snake, lifted by the king of birds and caught up into the air, as Hermaphroditus tries to slip away. Hanging there she twines round his head and feet and entangles his spreading wings in her coils. Or as ivy often interlaces tall tree trunks. Or as the cuttlefish holds the prey, it has surprised, underwater, wrapping its tentacles everywhere.

The descendant of Atlas holds out, denying the nymph’s wished-for pleasure: she hugs him, and clings, as though she is joined to his whole body. “It is right to struggle, perverse one,” she says, “but you will still not escape. Grant this, you gods, that no day comes to part me from him, or him from me.” Her prayer reached the gods. Now the entwined bodies of the two were joined together, and one form covered both. Just as when someone grafts a twig into the bark, they see both grow joined together, and develop as one, so when they were mated together in a close embrace.

This made me curious as to whether Ovid would have seen this as an attempted rape - the structure does somewhat parallel how he depicts Apollo's attempted rape of Daphne. Building on this, I know that modern ideas about sexual violence against men and boys (and all sexual violence in general) are exceptionally new and hardly universal, but I was wondering generally how new to concept that a woman forcing a man or boy to have sex with her is morally wrong is.


r/AskHistorians 5h ago

Were there any female philosophers in the middle ages and how did they feel about their society?

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r/AskHistorians 1d ago

Back when books were written by hand it was common for the scribe to decorate the margins with designs and drawings. One common trope was illustrations of Knights battling snails. Is there any indication why this was or what it meant?

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I was over at /r/HistoryMemes reading this post and learned about this. Someone over there that nobody has any idea why it was such a common subject.

Is there any school of thought on why snails were used? Was it a meme from antiquity or a joke? Or could there have been some some deeper meaning?

Example one Example two


r/AskHistorians 1h ago

Why did the British Empire create colonies in North America?

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In the US education system it is portrayed that before the seven years war, what are now called “the 13 colonies” were pretty much autonomous and British parliament levying taxes on them was unheard of. They even saw each-other as separate pseudo-nations. (I could be wrong about that).

Why then did the British Empire go through all the effort and money of establishing and defending these colonies? What benefit did the empire have in doing so?


r/AskHistorians 6h ago

How strong was regionalism in early 19th century Germany? Would an average German at the time identify primarly as a German, or rather as Bavarian/Saxon/Prussian/Westphalian etc.?

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r/AskHistorians 51m ago

How were ethnic Germans treated in Nazi Germany?

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I’m interested in how ethnic Germans, who were not political or sexual deviants, were treated when they committed a crime. Did they have (fair) trials? What were the prison conditions like? What were the sentences for crimes? What criminal justice rights did they have, if any? I’ve tried looking around but haven’t been able to find much on this, as most of the literature is on how minorities were treated, so any information would be much appreciated.


r/AskHistorians 1h ago

What happened to all the Internationals?

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We are at the 4. internationale. That is alot, not as many as the number of republics France has had. But why do we have a 4. Internationale, and what happened to the 1., 2. and 3.?


r/AskHistorians 6h ago

Why did the British form diplomatic relations and sign a trade agreement with the Soviet Union in 1921?

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So in 1921, the British decided to formally recognize the Soviet Union and signed a trade agreement with them. This confuses me because in the past three years before the Treaty was signed Britain was one of the supporters of the White Movement during the Civil War. So why did they decide to change their policy towards the Soviets?


r/AskHistorians 3h ago

How accurate is the depiction of the Cuban Revolution in The Godfather Part II?

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In The Godfather Part II, the Cuban Revolution and Batista's ouster is depicted right after the scene where Michael signals his awareness of Fredo's betrayal.

During the party at the Presidential Palace, Batista announces that rebel forces have seized the cities of Santiago and Guantánamo and declares his resignation and intention to flee the country immediately. This triggers panic among the wealthy guests who scramble to leave the country. Outside, the streets erupt in celebration as civilians bang on fire hydrants and cheer the arrival of the rebels. The scene also shows Batista’s soldiers saluting the incoming rebels as they take over the city.

How well does this depiction align with what actually took place in Cuba during the early hours of January 01, 1959?


r/AskHistorians 3h ago

Roman poets: Who did they perform their works for, and under what circumstances? Could one make an entire career out of it, or was it purely a hobby for aristocrats?

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