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u/Appropriate_Milk_775 VIRGINIA 🕊️🏕️ 1d ago
Idk. If Canada wants to hold a referendum then apply for admission as 13 new states fully adopting the American constitution and system of government I don’t have a problem with that.
I have no idea what annexing them actually means nor how that would work. I’m pretty sure no one else does either. We couldn’t just force them to become a part of the U.S. against their will.
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u/spencer1886 12h ago
Technically we could, it would just mean a war with Canada which would fuck with tons of treaties and just generally be a horrible idea
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u/413NeverForget KENTUCKY 🏇🏼🥃 12h ago
Even though this won't happen for many reasons, I feel like I still have to ask, why would Greenland lose its healthcare?
If it comes in as a state, which I imagine it would, then their elected governor would govern as they want along with their legislative, within the confines of their new State, and also the Federal, Constitution.
Like, didn't Romney, as Governer, basically give a better form of Obamacare to his state? In fact, IIRC Obamacare was BASED ON Romney's healthcare reforms.
Greenland would keep its healthcare services, I would imagine, so long as they'd elect a governor whose goal was to keep everything the same.
But this is all hypothetical, of course.
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u/ub3rm3nsch 1d ago
Having a bad take and having someone call you out on it doesn't make them randomly Anti American. I would much rather engage with people like this person than random English people who start talking about school shootings for absolutely no reason.
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u/Intelligent_Tea_1134 MISSISSIPPI 🪕👒 23h ago
Picture 2, comment 1 Picture 3, comment 1, paragraph 2 Picture 6, last comment Pictures 7 and 8 Those are my main concerns
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u/UndividedIndecision ALABAMA 🏈 🏁 1d ago
I'm sorry but this take is extremely ass
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u/coyote477123 NEW MEXICO 🛸🏜️ 1d ago
Agreed. We shouldn't stop at Canada and Greenland.
United States of the Solar System when?
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u/Kuro2712 🇲🇾 Malaysia 🌼 13h ago
Annexing allied nation and territories, or threatening to do so, isn't a good thing. Greenland wouldn't benefit from being bought out by America, they do well under Denmark.
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u/Intelligent_Tea_1134 MISSISSIPPI 🪕👒 2h ago
Yes, I do agree, though this is to point out the blatant rants against Americans just after this one comment.
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u/Doggydog212 18h ago
What’s wrong with this sub? OP upvoted somebody saying we should annex Canada. This is psycho shit lmao. I suppose you guys all love Russia and its conquests too? Are you all 14 years old and really into Risk?
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u/Intelligent_Tea_1134 MISSISSIPPI 🪕👒 18h ago
I was agreeing with the not wanting Mexico part. Also, Picture 2, comment 1 Picture 3, comment 1, paragraph 2 Picture 6, last comment, Pictures 7 and 8 are my main concerns
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u/the_battle_bunny 🇵🇱 Polska 🍠 22h ago
Controversial take: talking about annexing other countries without seeking prior consent of people to be annexed is bad.
Also, the people of Greenland might not be thrilled about the idea of being traded like a sack of potatoes. Especially since they are currently provided universal healthcare and other amenities of modern Scandinavian-model state.
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u/Typical-Machine154 6h ago
Annexing Canada is a joke. They're pretty much already the same country anyway.
He's offering to buy Greenland, and we already have military bases there, so that makes a great deal of sense. Part of it is ours already, Thule airbase.
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u/the_battle_bunny 🇵🇱 Polska 🍠 5h ago
And what if the locals say "no"?
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u/Typical-Machine154 5h ago
I'm not sure if they get to ratify whatever change happens or not. They didn't get to say no when the Danish came and they didn't get to say no to the airbase so I'm not sure.
Honestly I'm not sure it matters. Even if they did say no they'd just be offered money until they said yes.
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u/the_battle_bunny 🇵🇱 Polska 🍠 5h ago
Denmark said that no change of the island's status is possible without the Icelanders' consent. What's then? Taking it by force Russia-style?
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u/Typical-Machine154 5h ago
No. We offer them money until they do.
You really must be an "America bad" person if you really think that's how we work. We aren't taking anything by force.
Most land in our nation hasn't been taken through direct confrontation with the owners. If we were doing this old school a massive amount of settlers would move to Greenland until they outnumber the natives, then vote. Immigration laws now make this impossible so we would most likely solve this issue with money.
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u/the_battle_bunny 🇵🇱 Polska 🍠 5h ago
You may search my post history and you can see that I often defend America.
However this whole expansionist frenzy is concerning considering how it rings so many oddly similar bells. Also, it's not true that historically America expanded through land purchase. You sure did purchase Alaska, but certainly not Hawaii.
I already said, there's many reasons why people allied to America and even loving America might not want to be part of it. The large reason is that they currently live in welfare states with tight environmental regulations. Take a look at Greenlanders who currently have universal healthcare and jealously guard their island from being strip mined by giant mining conglomerates. Imagine for a second their perspective on changing the country from Denmark to US. They will be no longer covered by Danish universal healthcare but instead the predatory American healthcare insurance companies will pour in, taking additional advantage of locals not knowing how to deal with them. Plus, their new federal government would be in bed with bottom of the barrel mining corporations. Nightmare stuff.
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u/Typical-Machine154 5h ago edited 5h ago
- Louisiana purchase, Alaska, Gadsden purchase, Mexican secession (we gave them 15 million in exchange for the territory) Florida purchase.
The vast majority of the united state's land acquisitions were purchases. We have gained far less with bullets than with gold, and it's clear you don't know our history very well.
- The greenlanders would most likely be an organized unincorporated territory like Puerto Rico. I see you don't understand how US territories work so let me give you a brief overview.
A territory forms its own government and pays no federal tax. A territory can vote in and enforce its own taxes and laws. A territory could tax mining specifically and use the money to create a state health insurance plan for their own native citizens only. They also don't have to follow the constitution so they can discriminate based on native status, and that's already commonplace on native reservations so we are used to it.
A US territory is a essentially a sovereign country under the protection of the United States government, free to associate with us as much or as little as desired.
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