So this is really long but i donāt wanna leave out details because I need an honest and clear opinion with full context.
So me (M19) and my ex (F17) have known each other since October 2023. We were in the same college and were talking on and off for months but it was very unserious. My initial vibe was she was a pretty and sweet girl with confidence yet quiet and out the way. She had qualities I liked; Christian, didnāt swear, had intelligent convos, was waiting till marriage for sex. I never knew her on a deep enough level to know the deeper her but Iāll get to that. I was quite unserious in the initial 3 months we were just talking regularly at college. I can be quiet, socially awkward, never had a girlfriend or done anything sexual not even a kiss. I get some attention and only once was I entertaining two girls at once, but I have no bad intentions with girls, I just get told I look like a āplayerā and I use it to my advantage so people donāt see me as a guy whoās overly nice and shy with total inexperience with girls but a guy whoās chill and laidback. I was just handsome enough to be entertained with but never been desired or popular enough to be taken seriously so I stopped being a ānice guy/loverboyā and just went with the flow 99% of the time from then on.
So we start talking seriously/ exclusively and in the beginning of July, 2024. After months of mutual unseriousness, We had a little date/hangout in the final weeks of college and she was genuinely sweet and friendly and kind girl I had mentioned before but just a couple weeks after college ended, she had blocked me on everything. I wasnāt even invested but My ego was hurt a little and I sent an emotional text on a burner account. She replied, apologising for blocking me and appreciated my effort for always being patient, despite her fault finding, bad communication and lack of reciprocation and her overall avoidant attitude, and did the usual itās me not you. She also said āIām talking to someone else and it doesnāt make sense that youāre still trying with me when you know that. Iām not a horrible person but I get uncomfortable when things seem to get serious, and In all honesty youāre a great guy with great communication and you deserve a girl just like thatā. I was abit shorised someone had finally recognised my qualities but also the same familiar sting that Iād get in school when my crush would not be interested in progressing with me (despite flirting and entertaining me). I just liked the attention I was getting from her at the time and I wanted an apology for the sudden ghost. I was bored and my ego was hurt and I still told her we could just start on a fresh plate and go on a date since itās summer and jsut see where things go since we barely spoke in person in college. but things flipped unexpectedly from here.
After a few awkward days of not talking she explained that the guy she was talking to had ādisrespected her too many timesā and I saw he was removed from her followings. She then agreed to the date and I got a further apology and with my unexpected success, we were talking again. Then she randomly sends me:
āknow it seems like I'm a horrid person but that's just before you get to know me I kinda have a barrier-ish idk, but thank you for putting in the effort with me cause your acc all I want and asked for even tho we haven't seen each other a lot you kept trying with me even tho I kept pushing you away
kinda have a lot more to say so remind me on fridayyyā
I was super surprised and didnāt expect it and was wondering how my basic communication and patience and understanding was suddenly so attractive to her. I didnāt think of it too much and still kept my hopes down but Iāve never been appreciated like this before and it was going to be my first proper date with anyone.
So the first date entails. Lead to my first kiss, my first time hugging, holding hands whatever, Iām playing it cool but we both couldnāt believe how good the date went and she became 100x more attractive than she already was. And thatās where our attachment began. Second date amazing. Third date even better. At his point weāre locked in over the course of 4 weeks. Eventually I have to go to my country of origin to visit family and unfortunately cannot see her for 3 weeks. Itās hard being so attached and so distant from her and we had a couple issues but as soon as I came back it went right back to normal. I tell my mum about her and she gets invited to my aunties wedding. She comes to my house for the first time. We get intimate (no intercourse since weāre waiting) but as intimate as possible without doing that. More dates more hangouts at my house. I buy her gifts, flowers, quality time, paragraphs and letters telling her how she means to me. Eventually sheās my girlfriend after a Ā£300 proposal date. I gave her Everything. Iām her dream man and sheās my dream girl. The girl who was never loved correctly and never treats right and the guy who was always rejected and never appreciated. Worse combination ever.
See shit went downhill fast but I had an uneasy feeling for a long time. We were doomed from the start. My ex isnāt diagnosed with anything but she brought up that she relates and correlates with the traits of have BPD, PMDD (severe emotional instability during period) and also that she may have a fearful avoidant attachment. I didnāt know what any of this meant, but I listened to her but i never truly took in any of this deeply, I just wanted to love her and plus I was under the illusion everything was going amazingly.
As a guy never in a relationship and a bit ignorant I realise thats I followed far too much models and girls in my past and used to repost on TikTok some inappropriate humour that any girl deeply interested in me would have a problem with. Key word is USED to. But itās fair to feel a type of way about it. And I fixed all of these things seemingly at the door. I wanted to maintain the āyour everything I wantā āyouāre the perfect guy for meā view she had of me. The constant flattery and admiration she gave me made me feel appreciated in ways I never felt before and I know I was shaking her love and respect sheād never felt before. Now I get that she has never been treated right or wanted for more than her body by her exes and also how her narcissistic father and emotionally unstable mother affects her but She doesnāt know how to communicate well. She just kind of goes silent for an hour or so and would scroll down to months back on my reposts and like them to notify me. Sheād repost indirects about how she was disappointed and stuff like that to make me feel bad. When id ask whatās wrong I had to communicate and navigate and all id get was sarcastic or vague answers. When id finally sorted the issue and seemingly read her mind for what she wanted Iād either remove a repost or remove a like from a models post or just over explain and reassure her this is the past and I only had eyes for her. Sheād then come back to me and apologise for being distant and non responsive and go back to her usual lovey dovey flattering self. Sheād apologise for lack of communication and lack of response and reactivity but weād pretty much keep doing this dynamic for a while. I just assumed it was temporary for the relationship and weād grow out of it. Hopefully shed realise I was a safe person to talk to and she would have no need to fault find with me because I was genuine.
But she never really learnt how to communicate. Sheās just randomly do that every 3 weeks or so. I encouraged her more and more to communicate. One time she asked about a female friend from secondary school in my following. Now I have to admit it was an old crush from 4 years ago but it was never reciprocated and we became platonic friends and hadnāt spoken in months. She did that same dynamic thing and I tried to problem solve by telling her to communicate her wants and needs so we have more clarity. Naturallly anyone in the past who we liked or used to like we agreed should be removed (some people are pretty easy going with this type of thing but a lot arenāt) and it didnāt even occur to me that she was an old crush until a couldnāt dats after and I told her she was a crush from 4 years ago and wether or not I should remove her since it was a while ago and was never reciprocated. She then said āthanks for being honestā and went quiet for hours. This was while I was in my home country with limited WiFi. She then changed our profile pic from us to just her and reposted tiktoks indicating she was disappointed. I felt like such a failure. I blamed myself constantly for her emotional reactions and lack of communication.
This type of thing would happen a lot. It ruined my nervous system. One minute I was the sweet loving boy of her dreams the next I was letting her down with things she wouldnāt communicate. I removed so many girls /female friends to the point was just my very close female friends which I donāt see an issue with as long as she was doing the same.
But what could have been clear communication that would of solved the issue in one or two conversations was dragged for so long just because she got used to me trying to figure her out and over extending myself while she could just withdraw emotionally whenever things got uncomfortable. It was stressful and made me feel like I was failing at being her sweet boy. She did little manipulative things like changing her profile pic back to just herself like 3 times in the relationship and one time told me that āsheās be looking good in college if I ever started to give up and treat her badlyā which was just such an odd and random thing to say in the middle of healthy communication. On time we opened up about our insecurities during a bible study session on FaceTime and she asked me what she wanted her to wear fr
- [ ] 6 weeks into being serious and a day after being invited to my aunties wedding, she is telling me about how her friend is being pressured into more sexual stuff by her bf because she gave him head which she indicated she relates to and feels sympathy for. I immediately ask her what she meant by that and ask if sheās given head before. Bear in mind, this is a girl who takes a lot of pride in being a virgin and not having a body count which i admire a lot about her and share that same morality on. This is Also a girl who doesnāt like strong details like sexual past being hidden and hates finding out things that should have been said so we had the bodycount talk days into getting to know each other. Somehow she left out the fact that she gave her 2 exes head in the year before I met her. She hadnāt technically lied, but I felt mislead. Yes itās not sex but itās sexual. She was deeply apologetic and says she forgot or thought we talked about it already. I just donāt see how that adds up. Sheās not a liar but I canāt help but think how convenient it was. It also pissed me off because I knew the type of emotional reaction and feelings I would deal with if the roles were reversed. I felt sick and mislead and aired her for a couple hours to process my disgust, disappointment and anger. But I came back and apologised for being unresponsive for hours while she was blowing up my phone apologising. I communicated my disgust and disappointment and the double standard but still I considered her pov and gave her the benefit of the doubt that she didnāt keep it from her. I hated being mad at her. But the end of the night we sorted and solve those issues. Immediately you can see the difference in conflict resolve and emotional stability between me and her. I never noticed at the time, love can be blinding.
- [ ] About 2 months into being serious I had not long asked her to be my official girlfriend with a pretty expensive and elaborate proposal date thingy. We get invited to her close friends birthday at a restaurant and Shisha longue. I donāt like to judge people but i canāt help it sometimes but i think they just arenāt mature and good for my ex. Shes Christian, doesnāt drink or smoke or swear and is virtuous (kind of) in terms of sex her main friends are the opposite. Donāt get me wrong I have a few friends who are like that two but they at least offer me some type of emotional intelligence and I have some type of boundaries and distance with them. I feel like she was a bit of people pleaser with them. Iām not the most social guy but I knew immature and hungry guys would be there and I felt like I had to be there so my girlfriend wouldnāt be uncomfortable. I had no doubts with her loyalty, itās guy I donāt trust because I know how sneaky and persistent they can be towards girls , especially my ex cos sheās beautiful and gets a lot of attention. We get to the function and everything is cool, they arenāt my type of people but everyone is fine but itās just the two other guys and I can see how they are scanning all the girls there with lustful eyes. Unfortunately my ex was friendly asf. We both spoke briefly about how we didnāt have a friendly to opposite gender but after that day I saw clearly not. She initially didnāt say much to the guys but as time went on, she conversed with one of the guys we knew from college more and more. He would approach anything with a pulse. My ex was being hella friendly with him, while sitting next to me. Just casually flowing between me and him like it was normal. I felt like an option. Like my own girlfriend was giving the attention that was supposed to be reserved for me. There was no direct flirting but she just canāt see why she cannot be friendly to use type of guys. Of course hungry lustful guys perceive friendly behaviour as flirting. I canāt believe I had to tell her this after. Right in front of me too. Her own friends had to pull her to the side to stop her from being friendly with him. It was the most anxious and embarrassing couple hours of my life. I didnāt speak the whole way back and it was an awkward walk home. I knew I didnāt have the words and if I spoke it would be anger. As I let drop her off the train station, i felt bad for ignoring her and despite the disrespect and anger I felt, it didnāt override the overall respect and love for her that I had, God forbid I didnāt want that to be our last ever interaction if anything happened to us. I told her the get home safe and lean for a kiss. Only like an hour later when I was home did she text me in depth trying to communicate and deeply apologise for the way sheās acted. Still, after my rant, I gave her the benefit of the doubt and took it as an opportunity to educate her and show her why she canāt act the way she did and how even unintentionally she can make guys feel like they have a chance with her. Again, by the end of the night, it was sorted despite it still replaying over and over in my mind.
- [ ] The next thing. I canāt remember when it was, but it after all of the previous two. Me, her and her sister were in a group chat. I come back home from a shift and I see in her tiktok repsots sheās reposted something about finding cartoon characters attractive. I donāt think anything of it but after a few minutes something in me feels weird. Itās cartoon characters so it feels very stupid and unnecessary to be mad at, but it wasnāt really to do with the characters themselves, once again it was to do with her lack of consideration because I know If it was me, something would be said. Even if it was minor, something would be said or Iād get some type of attitude at least. And of course she continues with the joke at first about how attractive they are. I try to show her Iām bothered without seeming overly insecure about cartoon characters but more to do with the principle of her not considering and thinking about the roles reversed. She removed it pretty fast but, for hours we got back and fourth and her sister is trying to help her see where sheās going wrong and being immature and invalidating my feelings. I eventually let it go because it feels stupid spending the evening being upset about cartoon characters but I just couldnāt believe how invalidating and dismissive she was of me. It was a hit and confusing because she was really good and letting me express how I felt about anything but when it was to do with something sheās done that makes me feel a type of way that she might not immediately understand, im met with immediate defensiveness, rudeness and deflection. Then I get a blunt āgood nightā text rather than the usual āgood night handsome sleep well I love youā and I couldnāt believe how she made the situation about me expressing my feelings into how she felt about me expressing my feelings. I spoke with her sister privately about how ridiculous she was being and we talked about her behaviour and other issues about her. Eventually next morning Iād get and apology after explaining to her how she acted and things got back smoothly but I still bothered me how I had to be vulnerable and express myself despite time and time again sheās proven she isnāt a mature or safe person and reliable to come to for this.
- [ ] There were at least 3 other TikTokās she reposted that bothered me after this but at this point I couldnāt be asked for a repeat of that situation. I gaslighted myself into telling myself they werenāt that deep and I was nitpicking so held it in. I
Me and her sister would talk more in depth about her and over the course of the last few weeks of the relationship, weād happen to just keep talking about deep mental and religious and relationship things that I should have been having with my girlfriend. I understood how wrong it was to keep going to her sister for deep and honest and uncomfortable talks, we even mentioned to each other that we shouldnāt be talking this much as I shouldve been doing it with her instead but based on everything I just said, surely its understandable right? Not excusing it but Like I have my reasons and im not going crazy or ignorant here?
Anyways. Hereās the thing that broke us up. When we were chilling a couple days before our anniversary of when we first met, she casually asks me about my old phone thatās sitting on my bedside table. For context, this phone is an iPhone 8, cracked screen, no sim. I only used the phone for listening to music when my regular phone was dead. I also used it for writing lyrics for when I went to studio since I canāt listen to betas on YouTube and write lyrics on the same device at the same time. I just liked having the phone around for pure convenience. It stopped being my primary phone in 2022 when I got my current phone. However itās the same iCloud. So everything that was on this phone goes to that phone, but not everything I deleted that shouldnāt be on this phone got deleted from that phone if that makes sense. Old contacts of girls I used to talk to before her, old pics of models or chats with girls that i screen shotted in the camera roll, also my old Instagram accounts that have nothing compromising disrespectful or cheating on them. If she was to go through and look, she would quite obviously see that everything there is old and before us talking seriously. But based on everything I just said you can see how my nervous system was in shambles at this point. I just wanted peace. To feel like I was doing something right with her. Anticipating that emotional reaction and withdrawal. Knowing that when things get real or uncomfortable it will be me alone trying to fight for her love and attention to resolve friction or anything remotely uncomfortable. It will be me Wondering if sheās loosing love for me each and Every time we get into a disagreement or thereās friction. It will be me tolerating her spiteful and reactive behaviour. Scrambling and over explaining and apologising and then welcoming her back when sheās cooled off and whatās to be lovey dovey again. It was driving me crazy but not losing her and keeping her happy was my first priority. I only used the phone for listening to music when my regular phone was dead. I also used it for writing lyrics for when I went to studio since. So when she asked me if I used the phone. I panicked within that moment and I said no. Then she picked it up and asked if I knew the passcode and I said no. She put it down and we got back to cuddling and watching our movie. A couple days later, I take a day off of work for our anniversary thing and miss out on that days pay and we have a nice time just chilling and giving each other gifts or whatever.
However the next day, after my shift I get home and we set up a FaceTime call. After asking about each others day, she asks me: āI want to ask you something but I think I should wait in personā. after some playful back and forth I tell her to just ask. And she asks āwas you telling the truth about not using your old phone and not knowing the passcodeā. I tell her use in what way. She says either u use it or not. And I say yes just for music and bars and other convenience. And she asks why I lied. I understand how her kind works and how it could be suspicious so I offer to just go through it with her while I show on FaceTime. So when I do that I go to iMessage, phone contacts, and other apps however when she asks me to go on Instagram, and I immediately remember I have my old accounts signed in not my regular one. Instantly I panic and I stall going onto Instagram and she starts getting pissed. I try to explain to her and she puts down the call. Thatās when shit goes south.
I send paragraph after paragraph, explaining myself and panicking and I get one word answers. She asks if Iām cheating and say no and try to send a video of my other Instagram to prove Iām not cheating and I continue to apologise. I barely sleep all night and I see her reposts are all about how disappointed and ādoneā she is. The next day I see she then changes her profile picture from our cute couple pic back to herself. She reposts horrible reposts about how ugly I am and how much she regretted being with me and how she no longer craved me. I send more paragraphs telling her I want to fix this and how sorry I am. She gives me more one word answers. I see sheās posted flowers on her private story now. They are obviously not recent, but the post was made to look like it was recent. She then posts on the same private story an old video or her and her friend screaming lyrics related to being single while in her friends car. Someone she used to entertain hit her up and was trying to get back with her in her message requests and she didnāt reply but she screenshots it and also puts it on the private story and captions it āawwwwā. Then she links up with her close friends and she posts a thirst trap in the shopping centre changing rooms and also adds that to the private story. Iām assuming this story had only me on it.
She then sends a snap to me and I open it and it says āyou need to send all of your passwords or I donāt think this is going to workā and i immediately get into a further panic. Iām pretty sure this is blackmail. I argue back and forth with her and she acts like sheās about to leave so I fold and give her my Snapchat password. She goes through chats with my close friend and with female friends. She then mistakes one of my boys for a female and looks through the chat and finds a picture he saved in the chat that he took of me and my old crush from 3 years ago at prom. She never liked me back and only went to prom with me as friends pretty much. She then sent it to me and asked me who it was. When I told her the name, she recognised I was following this girl on Instagram in the first couple weeks of us being serious and she was mad about it because I didnāt tell her. She then went into my snap chat memories which is like a camera roll built into Snapchat for those who donāt know and saw pictures that I had taken of her ass whenever we were out or just chilling in my house without her knowing. Now this obviously I canāt defend this. It was weird and creepy and I overstepped. She had zero issue sending me freaky pics or nudes but a lot of the time I donāt wanna ask too much. In the stages of us talking casually sheād always poke fun at the fact that she thought I was a player and only wanted her for her body so When we first got serious I didnāt want make any bold first moves so I let her initiate everything apart from the first kiss. Sheād sit on my lap, pull me closer, Move her hands all type of stuff. I know thatās not an excuse but yes I overstepped. She wasnāt super mad at this after she calmed down, and said it was fine just to tell her next time but at the time it was like the cherry on top of everything else for her. I changed my password and logged her out as I felt like she was going too far and it felt weird someone being in all my accounts and she asked for them back or weād break up and tried to write paragraphs with tears in my face and eventually she blocked me and I broke down. A couple days later i got on a burner account and after some back and forth we āmade upā but clearly not as a week later she was still posting disrespectful reposts on TikTok and I called her up on it and we started arguing all over again and she blocked me. I broke down again. Then a couple weeks later I learnt to live life without her but still thought of her and sent her a heartfelt letter to her address. She unblocked me and once again back and forth. I got called a manipulator and gaslighter because I was trying to make her reaction a problem to my disrespect. But I was trying to show her how I felt disrespected and unconsidered for a long time and didnāt feel safe to even speak up about it without it being deflected or just getting an apology with no change. I know sheās not an evil mean girl. Ive felt so safe with her at times. I used to cry and open up to her. Sheās taken care of me in ways a lot of people havenāt. But I saw a spiteful and immature side to her that I canāt unsee now. I still love her. I know what she went through and I know that sheās hurting, maybe sheās getting over it faster than me. I told my friends who are still at college not to tell me about her so I can heal quicker. But I just want to know AITA in this situation. I lied, I lusted over her and I confided in her sister more than I should have. I have my reasons sure but was I responsible for the end of the relationship?