“The Empire Did Nothing Wrong”

[u/PlenitudeOpulence]

[u/MumenRiderZak]

And you assuming my words to mean things I didn't write isn't really bringing anything helpful at all to anything. It's just arguing with no purpose.

Israel is abhorrent. If they decide to stop acting like they are they will seize to be abhorrent.

[u/The100thIdiot → u/MumenRiderZak]

I never assumed your words to mean anything. I specifically asked what you intended to mean because they were unclear.

Israel is abhorrent.

Again, I disagree with your choice of words.

I believe that the current policies and actions of Netanyahu, the Likud party and their allies are abhorrent.

But that doesn't make the country itself abhorrent.

[u/MumenRiderZak → u/The100thIdiot]

Did I specify in its current state?

[u/The100thIdiot → u/MumenRiderZak]

No. You didn't specify anything. And that is the problem I am trying to highlight.

Generalised statements are not helpful.

Otherwise you could equally state that "Palestinians are abhorrent' because of the actions of Hamas.

[u/MumenRiderZak → u/The100thIdiot]

I did in my first response.

And you could easily say Hamas is abhorrent which they are. But you decided to use Palestinians as your argument instead even trough you know I specifically didn't talk about Israelis or Jews. You argue in bad faith

[u/The100thIdiot → u/MumenRiderZak]

I decided to use "Palestinians" precisely to highlight how problematic it is to use "Israel".

I argue in good faith.

[u/MumenRiderZak → u/The100thIdiot]

How so?

[u/The100thIdiot → u/MumenRiderZak]

How so, what?

[u/MumenRiderZak → u/The100thIdiot]

How does it highlight that?

[u/The100thIdiot → u/MumenRiderZak]

Are you serious?

You are quite happy to defend a group of people because they aren't responsible for the actions of a subset of that group, but at the exact same time, malign another group of people because of the actions of a subset of that group.

Do you not see how that is intellectually dishonest?