r/worldnewsvideo • u/real-m-f-in-talk Worldly đ • Jun 15 '23
News Report đ Man awarded $10 million; he was injured and arrested by officer for asking for directions home.
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u/woodisgood64 Jun 15 '23
Police would think twice if this money came directly out of their pensions, which they should!
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u/option_unpossible Jun 15 '23
Right. Instead, we the taxpayers pay. We pay for the military equipment, we pay for the shit training, we pay for the lost court cases, we pay with our lost freedoms, and at times we pay with our lives and our livelihood.
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u/AFewStupidQuestions Jun 16 '23
It might soon happen. There was just a case that wrapped up where the cop was found to owe $45million, but the city's insurance is only $30million. The other $15million will be directly from the city's budget.
This is the kind of thing that can change city policies in the future.
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u/TimeForHugs Jun 16 '23
Mandatory insurance like doctors need for malpractice. If they do something like this, the insurance pays out and either their rates hike enormously or they get dropped. Then if they can't get insurance they can't just move a county over and get hired there.
Taking it out of their pensions would be nice but I'm sure there would be some huff about how it isn't right. So at least with the insurance thing no one can say it's unfair. Why should other professions require insurance but not police, who are speeding around in cars and carrying guns, tasers and batons? Makes no sense.
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u/crankee_doodle Jun 16 '23
Itâs semantics, but they need to be bonded, not insured. Insurance protects the policyholder, a bond protects a third-party.
Tow truck drivers, for example, are bonded.
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u/TimeForHugs Jun 16 '23
That makes more sense then, yes. I think it would help put a stop to a lot of what these cops do. When there're hardly any consequences and the taxpayer pays for their horrible actions, then they get hired somewhere else and are back on the streets, there's no reason for them to behave properly. They know they're pretty much above the law, so they aren't worried about consequences. The ones who receive actual consequences are so few and far between that others think it won't happen to them.
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u/crankee_doodle Jun 16 '23
Absolutely! After a hit or two on a bond, they become un-bondable. They wouldnât be able to work again as a cop.
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Jun 15 '23
Cop should be arrested and charged
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u/Kalekuda Jun 15 '23
But whose to arrest them? Cops? Not likely to happen. In theory, a cop whose committed a crime could be subjected to a citizen's arrest, but they, being a cop, would levy qualified immunity and their "professional judgement" to decide they are being unlawfully arrested and use deadly force, so again, whose to arrest them, exactly?
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u/jankyspankybank Jun 16 '23
Well⊠back in the day the French made this funny looking machine called a guillotine. I imagine if prison cells âdonât workâ itâs not hard to make a new one.
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u/FordMan100 Jun 15 '23
The news anchor never received comments back to if the cop's still working there and in what capacity. I can answer for her without even making a phone call. Yes he is still working there and in the same capacity he was before. The PD didn't even take his coffee and donut privileges away.
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u/cturtl808 Jun 15 '23
I'm sure he was promoted.
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u/MoistureBoiV4 Jul 03 '23
âMarvin Sanders, as your higher up I must say, good job beating an innocent guy up just for asking for directions and costing our department $10 mil. I want to thank you for your unwavering service by giving you a promotion.â
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u/goatkindaguy Jun 15 '23
I canât stress that enough. The police only care about property damage. They donât care about YOU.
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u/No_bad_apples Jun 19 '23
Property damage and collecting revenues (fines, tickets, seizing assets etc)
The police are NOT our friends.
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u/option_unpossible Jun 15 '23
Going to need to teach my daughters this, as sad as it is, and we aren't even people of color. Its just not safe out there.
Also, am I the only one that hates that seemingly universal, pukey news anchor voice?
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u/MidianNite Jun 15 '23
I absolutely fucking despite the broadcast voice so many people in media use. No idea why it's still a thing like this is 1955 radio.
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u/TruthSpeakin Jun 15 '23
And the opening statement. A man who "claims" he was violently arrested sues. I mean, how is it a claim now lmao...
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u/SoVerySleepy81 2022 Oracle đź Jun 16 '23
I taught mine to find a person with children if they need help or got lost. Like you arenât guaranteed that theyâre a good person but I still think itâs safer than the cops.
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u/M0ncsy Jun 15 '23
For 9.3M they can arrest me now twice đč
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u/itsjustreddityo Jun 16 '23
Probably a decent amount, with 9.3m you can invest and turn a profit within a week. Use profits to pay for medical, walk away with appreciating investment.
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u/Constant_Standard460 Jun 16 '23
Thatâs not how settlements work. Medical and lawyers get their fees before you ever touch a lump some
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u/itsjustreddityo Jun 16 '23
Yeah it's done differently all over the world; but that's alright, plenty left over capital either way to invest.
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u/chinarosesss Jun 15 '23
One time I asked a cop for help at a gas station because I had a flat and couldn't loosen the bolts with the tire iron and I'd been trying for a couple hours. He was standing at a pump for awhile talking to people and petting someone's puppy so I thought it would be safe. He was not happy that I asked him, and it was in front of other civilians so he felt obligated but he made sure to let me know he was extremely annoyed by this. My phone was dead, I was alone, in a new state and broke and the sun had just set... But that's been my best experience with cops so far. The worst thing about that experience though was once I started putting the spare on I realized it's too small, wouldn't even touch the ground. If anyone reads this please make sure your spare tire is the right size before you need it. I slept in my car that night.
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u/Chazzzz13 Jun 15 '23
Always check your rental car for a spare. They are the first thing to get stolen/sold to the junkyard.
As a former employee, we were always supposed to check. Problem was, some idiots thought all spare tires weee the same. It ended poorly for a few people over the years.
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u/SookHe Jun 15 '23
One time I asked a cop for help, he asked if I wanted to be shot for approaching him.
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u/Wasted_Potency Jun 15 '23
Idk for 10 million I might start asking for everything.
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u/Sph1003 Jun 17 '23
I'd say he got 10 million for all the surgeries bills, and i don't want to know how much he had to spend.
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u/CanonAE1program Jun 15 '23
i remember the commercials when i was a kid in the early 70's o the little lost kid and the cop taking him by the hand and walking him home and asking what his house looked like,
i would like to hope that not all cops are like this one in the video an he's just a bad apple, police officers need a whistle blower clause to turn in bad cops. i think it comes down to lack of training also. so its a top down kind of thing,
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u/DontForgetThisTime Jun 15 '23
âI would like to hope that not all cops are like this one.â I would agree with you, if we havenât seen this same tried song and dance over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. The only good thing is the kid didnât get killed
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u/CanonAE1program Jun 15 '23
yea sadly i have to agree, last august i got stopped by a state trouper that was tailgating me (i didnt know it was cop) i was ready to hit the 911 on my phone because i thought it was going to be one of those bump and carjack things, then i saw the lights after about 4 blocks of watching headlights vanish behind me, i pull over and hear "HANDS ON THE WHEEL" then a cop comes up to my door and says "you know why i pulled you over"? No.....i dont "you dont have any insurance on this car" i said well its a rental didnt you see that when you put your hand on the sticker on back. (btw this rental had all kinds of sensors on it that were going off when he was tailgating me)
i said i not only have my regular insurance but also took out the rental insurance plus im sure it has fleet insurance from Enterprise
"well maybe thats why but i still need to see your lic."
i think i was just profiled and he was fishing
also this cop was trying really really hard to grow a mustache. you know like that first one you try to grow in High School ......it made him look like he was 16 (maybe he was and they are having a hard time with recruitment ?
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u/slide_into_my_BM Jun 16 '23
Theyâre not even legally required to help you in an emergency. âServe and Protectâ is good marketing but ultimately worthless to us civilians.
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u/WyrmHero1944 Jun 16 '23
Where I live cops are supposed to serve the community, ie. you can ask for help like this without problem. Seems the situation is very different in the US.
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u/PsyopVet Jun 16 '23
Unless youâre white, then itâs OK. And yes, Iâm white. If I asked a cop for directions do you know what I would get? Directions.
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u/LUNA_FOOD Jun 17 '23
Lol, he is white
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u/PsyopVet Jun 17 '23
Maybe heâs mixed, but he is identified as a Mexican American.
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u/LUNA_FOOD Jun 17 '23
Also there are tons of white MexicansâŠ
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u/PsyopVet Jun 19 '23
My wife is Bolivian and her ancestors are of Italian and indigenous origin. Her mother and one of her sisters are darker, but my wife, her father, and other sister all have light skin so she gets mistaken for being white all of the time.
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u/LUNA_FOOD Jun 19 '23
She must be beautifulđ, I donât like much the clear cut division United Statians make of humans, because we are a mix of everything .
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u/real-m-f-in-talk Worldly đ Jun 15 '23
- Article & Bodycam - Fox2 news - Arrested by Dearborn Cop after asking for directions; receives $9.3 Million.
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u/nighttimegaze Jun 15 '23
âYouâre so successful⊠howâd you do it?â
Well⊠it all started after I got lostâŠ
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u/KaranthWasTaken Jun 15 '23
Given that it took 5 years (according to the article) for him to get any money, I don't think I can call that success. Plus, injuries that'll never heal? Nah, I'm good.
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u/ShadowSpawn666 Jun 15 '23
I got injuries from work that will never heal, and in 5 years I am not going to have anywhere close to $9 million. Doesn't seem like a bad deal to me.
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u/Galactus83 Jun 15 '23
Serious question; How many of these need to happen before Insurances will not cover PDs? like where Insurances stopped covering fires in california.
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u/PauI_MuadDib Jun 16 '23
My hometown is so bad the PD can't get insurance. So they take it out of the city's general funds. So instead of only paying the insurance deductible it all comes from the taxpayers.
Louisville, KY is facing that crisis rn. After the LMPD cost the city over 40 million in lawsuit settlements, they're having difficulty finding an outside insurance company to cover their police.
If you want reform it's gotta be legislated. Because just dropping them from insurance means they'll raid the city's general funds instead. They won't stop.
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u/Grimlokh Jun 15 '23
Unfortunately insurance doesn't cover this and cops are not mandated to keep any kind of malpractice insurance.
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u/oddmanout Jun 15 '23
The city and/or police department has insurance, that's who generally pays out in a situation like this.
The premiums, however, are paid by the taxpayer.
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u/PauI_MuadDib Jun 16 '23
There's also the deductible and the legal costs. Like Chicago pays 40 million annually to private law firms to represent them in police misconduct lawsuits. NYC also pays about an additional 2 million (on top of their Special Federal Litigation Division budget) to a police union controlled legal defense fund.
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-budget-police-misconduct-lawsuit/12868750/.
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u/oddmanout Jun 16 '23
yea, there's other cost associated, I was just clarifying, the type of insurance the original guy was talking about was insurance that PDs and cities have, not individual cops.
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u/DatMikkle Jun 15 '23
It is absolutely ridiculous that these payments do not come out of police pension.
We are letting these monsters get away with this over and over again all at the cost of our tax dollars.
What kind of backwards country is this?
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u/NoSkillzDad Jun 15 '23
If you encounter the police in the us (even if you call them!), it's a Russian roulette where you either end up rich or dead. (The third hidden option is in jail).
The only thing to keep in mind is that white people can only play this game on very rare occasions.
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u/miami_fl_305 Jun 15 '23
Stop with the white vs black narrative. Many black people have been awarded huge judgments against police and more white people are killed by police than black. (Though the proportions are skewed).
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u/Rough_Homework6913 Jun 15 '23
What are you trying to say? Are you actually trying to say more white people are killed by the police than Black people killed by the police? Because I donât think thatâs true. Hang out. Iâm gonna go do some research.
Edit oh yeah bro the rate of Black people being murdered by the police is much higher than white people being murdered by the police. That only took me three minutes. You sound stupid.
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u/Ikaav Jun 16 '23
Why didnât you list a source? Twice as many whites are shot dead by cops each year vs blacks according to the first google result statistica.
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u/miami_fl_305 Jun 30 '23
Rates and numbers are two different things. Pay attention, itâs important.
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u/blackdogwhitecat Jun 15 '23
Police acting like this and causing (necessary) payouts is why MI is basically bankrupt
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u/MuuaadDib Jun 15 '23
So after the judgement, the cops continue to show they are still disrespectful for snubbing the media on their inquiry. Nothing will change, they hire tyrants and you get abusive authoritarians.
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Jun 15 '23
Clearly universal basic income will work since cities have all this money to hand out for officer violations of civil rights.
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u/Timmerdogg Jun 15 '23
In 2003 I was living in Texas and I was in a rural area at night and completely lost. I hadn't even seen a sign of another person for 10 minutes. I saw a set of headlights approaching so I clicked my brights on and off a couple of times and waved out my window. Turns out it was a cop. Instead of giving me directions they unlawfully searched me finding two joints containing less than a gram of marijuana total. They took me to jail, impounded my car and it cost me over 3 grand in legal fees. So yeah don't ask a cop for directions.
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u/arieart Jun 15 '23
police are here to protect property and maintain the structures of power. never ask a cop for anything.
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u/More_Surround_917 Jun 15 '23
The cop should have been tased , pepper sprayed and arrested. Then fired
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u/MidianNite Jun 15 '23
I asked a cop for directions when I encountered him at stopped at an intersection whilst I was cycling at around age 15.
He begrudgingly pointed me in the right general direction after yelling at me that I wasn't supposed to be cycling on that road. It was the main thoroughfare in town, in a state where bicycles are allowed everywhere but the freeway. I think he was just pissed off that I expected him to be helpful. Probably not why he signed up.
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u/Lackerbawls Jun 16 '23
Every time shit like this happens the money should come from the police union. Then and only then will they start penalizing their gang members.
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u/Organic_South8865 Jun 16 '23
That cop better not still be employed. He cost taxpayers $10mil.
Never, ever ask the cops for help. EVER. It's just about the worse thing you can do.
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u/AgonizingFury Jun 15 '23
Note that the lawyer states that we have a right to resist an unlawful arrest, and while that should be true everywhere, it often is not. In Michigan it is clearly decided caselaw as of 2012 that citizens of Michigan have a common law right to resist an unlawful arrest. See Michigan v Moreno (2012) if you want more details.
This case arose from a physical struggle between Defendant Angel Moreno, Jr. and two Holland police officers when the officers sought to enter Defendant's home without a warrant. As a result, Defendant was charged with resisting and obstructing a police officer and causing injury under MCL 750.81d. The issue before the Supreme Court was whether Defendant was properly charged after trial. It was determined that the officers entered his home illegally. Upon review, the Supreme Court concluded that MCL 750.81d did not abrogate Defendant's common-law right to resist illegal police conduct. As such, the Court instructed the trial court to grant Defendant's motion to quash the charges against him on the basis that the officers' conduct was unlawful.
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Jun 16 '23
ACAB for real, no exceptions bc you know they were all patting him on the back after his 1 day suspension and 10mil lost
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u/BisquickNinja May 27 '24
The police officer should have their paycheck and their retirement garnished. I'm tired of our taxes paying for these monumentally stupid officers making monumentally stupid decisions.
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u/LaughableIKR Jun 15 '23
If the police had said "You seem to have been drinking or you are on drugs. You are being detained" it would have saved the taxpayers 10 million.
This guy needs to be fired. Incompetent MF.
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u/metalmaniak68 Jun 15 '23
Soooooo maybe shouldnât say this, but he was asking for directions to get home, also said in the video that heâd been to that White Castle lots of times. đ€·ââïž
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u/Kalekuda Jun 15 '23
I've been in the same situation- no phone, navigating an unfamiliar area at night and stopping at a fast food joint to ask for directions to the nearest landmark I knew my way home from (and to buy food). If you're in this situation and ask somebody for directions, please don't follow them into the building after they gave you directions- and please don't ride bikes inside a white castle or any other place of business. Thats very disrespectful to the employees who'll have to clean up the skid marks.
The cop had no legitimate reason to assault and arrest this boy other than to mend his own ego when the boy felt threatened by the cop's frustration with the situation. That cop should have just let the kid bike out with a warning "And please don't ride bikes in buildings again- this is your warning!" etc, rather than breaking the poor kid's foot.
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u/bodega_bladerunner Jun 16 '23
Do you get taxed on court ordered awards like this? Iâd like to how that man got the full amount
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u/heyitscory Jun 16 '23
I'm going to ask cops things that I would normally ask Google. I think if I do that enough, I can get a $10 million beating.
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u/VidaliaVisuals Oct 14 '24
cops aren't people. 5 years to determine that? 1 day suspension? they could kill you and get a verbal warning as punishment
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