r/whales 1d ago

Scientists say this female orca adopted a pilot whale calf - what if she just wanted a pet or companion instead?

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/n-s-researcher-identifies-first-recorded-case-of-an-orca-caring-for-pilot-whale-baby-1.6286160

The article says:

Zwamborn said that while researchers can't know for sure, she and her colleagues suspect the killer whale took the newborn away from its parents.

She said it's possible that this particular orca has been unsuccessful in either getting pregnant or keeping a newborn orca alive and went out in search of its own whale calf.

Do you think anyone has considered that the orca may have wanted a pet, not an adopted calf? Instead of being a mother to the pilot whale, what if she just wanted a companion and rescued it like humans rescue dogs and cats?

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u/CaptainCetacean 1d ago

Pilot whales are of similar intelligence to orcas, it’s likely that she adopted the calf as a calf, not a pet. There’s no evidence that cetaceans keep pets.

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u/SurayaThrowaway12 1d ago

Despite the prevalence of alloparental care amongst multiple cetacean species, the sighting of a female orca showing apparent alloparental behaviour towards a pilot whale calf off of Iceland is quite unusual, considering how xenophobic orcas tend to be towards even other orcas from different populations within the same "ecotype." This is in contrast to behaviours seen other delphinid species such as common bottlenose dolphins and Indian Ocean humpback dolphins.

Reasons why the female orca abducted/adopted a pilot whale calf could include using the calf for practicing maternal care, forming a maternal attachment to the calf, or even the calf trying to initiate a relationship with the orca. The sighting may offer insights into why long-finned pilot whales sometimes chase after orcas off of Iceland.

And indeed, there is no evidence that orcas and other cetaceans have any concept of pet ownership.

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u/Mortreal79 1d ago

Yeah this behavior has been observed across many species, keeping pets not so much.

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u/Jumpy-Aerie-3244 21h ago

"adopted" is a human concept just like "keeping a pet". 

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u/CaptainCetacean 20h ago

This isn’t exactly true. In many species, animals that don’t have young will often find young without parents (or with parents in this case lol) and care for them. 

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u/Jumpy-Aerie-3244 20h ago

Sure. And that doesn't mean you can entirely assume that is what happened here or that the animals motive in these cases entirely matches the human concept of adoption.

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u/CaptainCetacean 20h ago

It’s likely similar. You forget humans are animals. We’ve been likely adopting children since before we were human. 

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u/Jumpy-Aerie-3244 20h ago edited 20h ago

You've just made my point. In animal behavior work you will hear few terms more often than "likely".

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u/Superb-Truck7399 13h ago

Your initial claim was that adoption is a human concept. Within the context of animal behavior, there is absolutely a concept of adoption. You're responding to a reddit commit positing that this is the case here.

You know it happens with animals. You know that reddit comments aren't published research articles. What exactly is your point of contention? I know you've got a shovel and you're just digging, but it seemed rude to say it outright without asking.

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u/Jumpy-Aerie-3244 13h ago

I have a PhD in animal ecology. A lot of animal behavior science is based on thin evidence and a ton of conjecture.

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u/freckleandahalf 20h ago

Adopted.... kidnapped in this case

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u/David_Headley_2008 1d ago

Wish to see orca relations with other toothed whales as well, because imagine if orcas adopt a bull sperm whale, an incredible asset due to size and ability to dive deep

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u/ribcracker 23h ago

It's in interesting (though sad) thought that she adjusted to her need for raising another generation via a nontraditional path. Whether she stole the calf or happened upon it would be interesting to know just because of the implications on her initial intentions, but in general I personally wonder if this relationship fills a personal need she has from losing her calves prior or if this is a subconscious fulfillment of the more general species instinct to breed.

Either way I hope the best for them both.

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u/Snork_kitty 14h ago

The calf died (see article) - no food (milk) available from the orca

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u/ribcracker 14h ago

I did read it, but missed it near the bottom.

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u/Snork_kitty 13h ago

I almost did too - I guess they are assuming it's dead. Sad...

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u/ribcracker 13h ago

I wonder if she had milk from a recent calf loss it would have been a better outcome. It’s unfortunate that she most likely took the calf from parents for this to end this way like her first. I want to root for her but it nots so great for the birth parents of her adopted calf.

You’re totally right it’s sad all around.

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u/infrawgnito 21h ago

What will the orca do with the pilot calf as it gets older? Will the pilot whale calf be accepted as a regular pod member? Would it hunt with the orcas? Interesting to follow this case.

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u/SurayaThrowaway12 12h ago

The pilot whale calf was quite emaciated and was not spotted again with the pod. The female orca would not have been able to nurse the pilot whale calf if she did not have any newborn calves of her own.

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u/HauntedButtCheeks 12h ago

The calf was underfed and is assumed dead. The kidnapper didn't have any milk to feed the calf.

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u/infrawgnito 9h ago

It keeps getting sadder. 😭

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u/Jumpy-Aerie-3244 21h ago

Theres a ton of speculation and anthropomorphizing in animal behavior research. Partly because some aspects are virtually unknowable and partly because getting the answers requires very tedious and expensive experiments.

I'd also add that more human relatable stories get headlines and hence helps with grant money and academic prestige.

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u/overdriveandreverb 16h ago

No, since it is newborn and needs milk, mother newborn, not pet, not companion relationship.

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u/Stairwayunicorn 1d ago

whats the difference?

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u/fis000418 23h ago

About three to five metres and three tones...