r/wec • u/TheMasterOfSas Ferrari • Nov 24 '22
SuperGT/DTM DTM in talks with ADAC about potential series sale
https://sportscar365.com/other-series/dtm/dtm-in-talks-with-adac-about-potential-series-sale/40
u/giambe_x Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 25 '22
DTM with GT3 offered two great season of racing, apart a couple of bad rules (SC Indy restart, weights for podium finishers) and Norisring 2021. It was a good championship and i enjoyed a lot, it's the only GT sprint series dedicated to pro drivers with pro rules. This year entry list was awesome, in 2022 only the Spa 24h had more in both quality and quantity. The calendar too was very very good. But ITR management is trash. Bad social media coverage, bad series promotion, bad highlights and a youtube channel live coverage geoblocked basically everywhere except a couple of country.
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u/motorsport_central Nov 24 '22
I want to add that ticket prices were much too high. I mean 45€ for one day. Thats by far the most expensive GT3 series. Even if they had many many support series, grandstands and general access almost always were empty.
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Nov 25 '22 edited Feb 16 '23
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u/motorsport_central Nov 25 '22
Exactly. They could have looked at other GT3 series and change their prices accordingly, but they didnt.
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u/pineapplecooqie Nov 25 '22
DTM lost its identity switching to GT3. not much reason to watch it over any of the other GT3 series.
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u/nab2488 Nov 25 '22
I had a wish that when Class one died that DTM needed to really reinvent it's self. I am sure no body talked about it but it was the perfect chance for NASCAR, V8 supercars, and DTM to develop a class for themselves. They could have split the development costs on between the 3 series. I am sure the German brands would not have gone for it which is why it never was discussed. But could you imagine a NASCAR Next gen car with an Audi, BMW, Or Mercedes engine. You probably wouldn't get any DTM teams attempting a NASCAR oval. But what if a DTM team wanted to do try a NASCAR road race at cota or watkins and also try to with Bathurst. I feel it is a massive missed opportunity on all fronts.
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u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid Manufacturers Nov 25 '22
V8 supercars
DTM really needs to learn r/v8supercars. V8SC really does fantastic job to save its, their car is still like what DTM used to except the brand.
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u/wirelessflyingcord Jaguar #3 Nov 25 '22 edited Nov 25 '22
I don't think Supercars is that fantastic example. The next-gen era (2023) is already off to problemaric start: one of their new cars is already not sold in Australia and looks to be canned worldwide soon. Fortunately, the OEMs themselves merely borrow their names and other entities build the cars so probably the grids will remain big.
Edit: Correction.
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u/NCLumia Nov 25 '22
ehhh I don't see the Mustang to be canned worldwide, they literally just introduced a new gen of the Mustang, the S650. Unless you were talking about the Camaro which is also the one that isn't sold in Australia
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u/wirelessflyingcord Jaguar #3 Nov 25 '22
Yes, mixed them up. But essentially looks like they might soon face the same situation they do now (one more race to go) with half of the grid running a brand that doesn't exist.
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u/tadL Dec 02 '22
Let the brand please go under. After the restart the finale showed us that nothing changed. Not the drivers decide the outcome on the track. The brand's do. Mercedes just forces other teams to slow down so their preferred driver wins the title...just let it burn
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u/shigs21 Toyota Gazoo Racing TS050 #7 Nov 25 '22
man, its sad to see dtm like this. I think a shift to TCR would be cool
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u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid Manufacturers Nov 25 '22
TCR is FWD based touring car, its speed has a big gap to compare GT3 car.
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u/shigs21 Toyota Gazoo Racing TS050 #7 Nov 25 '22
yes, but like the article said, it would be an actual return to "touring car" as the DTM name suggests
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u/NCLumia Nov 25 '22
They are touring cars, yes, but as said before, the speed gap is too huge. Plus it really doesn't have to be pure-bred touring cars, like for example V8SC aren't really touring cars either, yet the racing is really good and noone complains about them not being touring cars.
Also we already have TCR Germany from ADAC, so we would've gone into the same situation like right now with GT3 anyway2
u/NtsParadize Toyota Dec 01 '22
V8SC aren't really touring cars either, yet the racing is really good and noone complains about them not being touring cars.
Noone? 😂 do you read YouTube comments?
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