r/scuderiaferrari • u/gronkss04 Charles Leclerc • 12d ago
Statistics Despite finishing 2nd in the constructors championship, Ferrari scored 652 points in 2024 season. This is the highest amount of points that Ferrari scored in a single season since the start of Turbo-Hybrid era in 2014
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u/sleepysalomander 12d ago
First year in the turbo hybrid era of real marked improvement in all areas from Ferrari. Vasseur is doing everything right so far. Strategy is far more sound, pitstops (although not as rapid as RBR or McLaren) are incredibly consistent and still pretty quick. I can’t remember a single pitstop blunder this season. Canada doesn’t count as they were resetting the car, and Qatar the car couldn’t be properly lifted because of the puncture. Development has been better, but still a bit shaky (although the main man responsible for that shake is gone). Everything seems to be coming together for next year. We had no right to be in contention this season against that McLaren, but the team and driver consistency brought us there.
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u/kwl147 11d ago
Who was responsible for the shake? Team did extremely well to recover from the bad major upgrades that ate into the budget significantly when they took the car backwards and didn’t give any performance benefit.
That’s my major cause for optimism from this season. It’s been decades since Ferrari out developed teams around us and improved a car faster
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u/sleepysalomander 11d ago
Enrico cardille was technical director during the time of the early summer developments, and some questionable quotes about the importance of suspension surfaced around the time of the Spain upgrades. Enrico left for Aston Martin, reportedly without much resistance from Vasseur. Diego tondi was promoted to head of aerodynamics and Fred Vasseur was interim technical director in the period between the Spain updates and the crucial Monza and Singapore updates, that propelled Ferrari forward. Tondi has been great so far, and Vasseur worked as a surprisingly impressive interim leader. Now that role has been filled by Loic Serra from October this year.
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u/kwl147 11d ago
Would it be possible for the previous technical director before Enrico Cardille to have more of an input and influence over the direction of the cars development and the suspension decision than Enrico himself and he was just following the path, with the updates that followed from Monza and Singapore, more akin to his influence? There can often be time lag when it comes decision making and when things happen.
Agreed that Fred deserves a lot of credit in how we rode out the transitional period. Hopefully Serra keeps the momentum and good work going into the off season and coming years. 2026 is going to be a massive reset.
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u/sleepysalomander 11d ago
Cardille was technical director from early 2023 onwards, and was vehicle project manager from 2016 onwards. The SF-24 was a pretty big departure from the SF-23, so I’d say it was more under cardille’s influence than anyone else.
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u/Evening_Rock5850 12d ago edited 12d ago
Total points stats are so silly and amazing at the same time.
Red Bull for example is in 2nd place behind Ferrari in all-time points; despite completing just 1/3rd the grands Prix. But they’ve been dominant in an era with more races and more points scoring.
But if you normalize all results (so take the actual race placements and normalize them to the exact same points standard for all time), Red Bull is a distant 4th and Ferrari has an untouchable lead. If F1 used the current points system for the entire history of the World Championship; then Ferrari is in 1st with 22,424.1 points. And McLaren is 2nd with 14,982.
But; here’s the really fun one. If you normalize points across all seasons to the current points system; this year beats 2004 as the year Ferrari have scored the most points ever. But the 2004 season represents the most points per race.
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u/EzAf_K3ch Charles Leclerc 12d ago
well it's probably the most points ferrari has ever scored in a season no
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u/panda8042 F1-75 12d ago
But this was the most amount of races in a season. So that kind of makes it less impressive tbh. Don't get me wrong, Ferrari did great overall!
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u/SangiMTL 11d ago
Everyone should be proud of the team. Yes it sucks coming second, but think about this. We came second despite having to totally turn around our upgrade plans after the disaster that was Barcelona. If we got it right that first time, we may have actually stormed to the constructors. Now that the team knows where to go in terms of ideas and upgrades, next year will be solid. The people who came over from Merc and RB are also allowed to start working on the car as well. Ferrari is absolutely heading in the right direction and this season showed it. We came second by 13 points even after getting our upgrades wrong. That’s an unbelievable thing. Forza Ferrari
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u/Zealousideal_Site161 12d ago
Maybe more races or two consistent drivers with semi consistent team management.
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u/vascometro69 12d ago
This is the highest in points total, but not the best average per race (2014-present)
the best average of points per race was in 2018 (27.19 pts/race), this season (27.1(6) pts/race)
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u/Zavii_HD F2004 12d ago
Let's take one moment to appreciate how absolutely tricked-out in sponsors this year's Ferrari is. They and McLaren both are running the sponsorship game.