16 October 2018....we're definitely getting old

[u/Abercrombie1936]

[u/SeesawDecent5799]

And its still higher quality than 95% of games that came out after it. In my opinion greatest game of all time.

[u/deep_fried_cheese → u/SeesawDecent5799]

I’d say that number is more like 99.999%. It truly is the greatest game ever made, for one more year that is.

[u/MatureUsername69 → u/deep_fried_cheese]

I dont necessarily expect the same level of interactivity with npcs in GTA which might affect whether or not I feel it's a better game. I expect it to be good either way but gta has never been the immersive experience that RDR2 was. It's also never had that great of interactivity with NPCs which has a huge effect. The thing is though, the whole "greet" and "antagonize" mechanic was developed by Rockstar BEFORE Gta 5, BEFORE Gta 4. You can first see it in Bully. 12 years before RDR2. The graphics are gonna be great, gameplay is gonna be great, missions will be fun, but Rockstar has never given me reason to believe that a GTA game will be the immersive experience that RDR2 was.

[u/deep_fried_cheese → u/MatureUsername69]

No way, this game is not like any previous GTA titles or any video game that is, the expectations are astronomical and part of that is from the immersion and quality of RDR2. At the bare minimum people want a full 1:1 translation of the aspects game but it’s a gta game instead of a red dead game.

The npc interaction will absolutely be expended upon because this game will be a leap from RDR2, I think npc interactions was also brought up in some leaks. You should fully expect gta6 to have the same greet antagonize system in the game and even more dialogue options/actions.

[u/MatureUsername69 → u/deep_fried_cheese]

It's still not gonna be the immersive role play that Red Dead is. Wasn't the case between gta 4 and Red Dead 1 and wasn't the case between gta 5 and RDR2, hell wasn't the case between Bully and the GTAs at the time. It would have to take itself far too seriously for it to hit on the same notes that Red Dead does and if it takes itself seriously, it's not gta. It's an action comedy game made for the most casual of gamers. At it's core, gta can't be the immersive experience that Red Dead is. Look at Red Dead Online, Rockstar is probably going to shy away from making it a 1:1 translation of certain mechanics specifically because of RDO. They aren't going to experiment with their cash cow so much that little kids stop buying shark cards. Rockstar has pretty much always used their other games to experiment with mechanics and GTA might add a couple but it's pretty much always been the simplest of their games because it's made for a mass audience of casuals.

[u/LordOfDarkHearts → u/deep_fried_cheese]

I wouldn't go that far, but RDR2 is way up at the top. If GTA 6 is going to be as beautiful as RDR2 and feature similar cool mechanics, GTA 6 could take the cake. I hope 6 is going to be as great as RDR2.

[u/Emergency-Ad-3350 → u/LordOfDarkHearts]

I hope we can pull up the map from inside a building. And open doors smoothing. Or go in most of the buildings

[u/satsfaction1822 → u/deep_fried_cheese]

The only games that have come out that are even close are Elden Ring and Tears of the Kingdom.

[u/MastrAku → u/SeesawDecent5799]

Definitely a "once in a decade" kind of experience.

[u/Always-Late9268 → u/SeesawDecent5799]

It's not just technology improvements that improve game quality; as time goes on, the amoubt of labour that is required to meet higher and higher game standards and to be able to make games capable of taking advantags of better computing power increases. To push the envelope further, a game company has to have an ever increasing budget for the kinds of games like RDR2. Few companies can sink the kind of money rockstar has been able to, rockstar can because their games have such a good reputation and they pursue quality over quantity so they can be confident that their game sales will exceed the large budgets they set so it's commercially not too risky for them 

This is also why games are taking longer and longer to make. Eg. Remember when GTA games had just a handful of years between each release, now to 12 years. So much more has to go into making the bigger, more beautiful, more detailed games that players are expecting.     It's interesting that the prices per game have hardly increased over the years, despite production costs for the big ticket games skyrocketing, but I guess that's why microtransactions got so popular. And there is a larger audience now too, gone are the days of games being a niche "geeky" thing and are now mainstream entertainment.  (And of course, the infamous gold bars😭 which in my opinion is milked SO hard in RDO that it makes the game completely undesirable for me to play 😆 thankfully single player mode is SO good that you can already spend hundreds or even thousands of hours on it!!!) 

RDR2 cost around 500 million to make in the 2010s, it would cost even more now since inflation etc. So we get a relatively small number of games with the kind of quality to be top of the range of its time, from studios that have the backing. Compared to the bazillions of simpler games 

Rockstar's business model is all about making a small number of ground breaking games that have big budgets but big audiences because they have this reputation, their games win tons of awards, they don't release loads of games so people continue to play and buy their games years later. Their reputation is all about big, epic games that push the whole medium into new territory.

I DEFINITELY agree about RDR2 being the greatest game of all time... It's my favourite so far! I can't talk this game up ENOUGH!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Might have to wait another 10 years for RDR3 but IT WILL BE SO WORTH IT 😍

[u/90zvision → u/SeesawDecent5799]

Oh no doubt. The level of detail and realism still surpasses pretty much any other title I’ve ever played.

[u/Tamer9 → u/SeesawDecent5799]

Facts

[u/P4r4th0x1c → u/SeesawDecent5799]

Overall, i can agree with you. The setting on the west might not be for everyone and the bad critic’s come from those people. Storyline is major point for me in games. So i call Shenmue 1 and 2 way ahead of its time with a fascinating and intriguing story(because i liked the japan/china setting. So id pick Both shenmue and rdr2 my favourite games of all time. Ps: playing Ghost of Tsushima rn :)

[u/Zhurg → u/SeesawDecent5799]

Name one game from the past five years that is higher quality

[u/YifukunaKenko → u/SeesawDecent5799]

For real. I started playing this game recently and it feels like it could be a current gen title, can’t believe it’s a 6 year old game

[u/I_Need__Scissors_61 → u/SeesawDecent5799]

Nothing has come even particularly close to it since.

[u/DinosaurInAPartyHat → u/SeesawDecent5799]

Show me one that compares?

I'll wait.

[u/MummysSpecialBoy]

RDR2 was released 8 years after the first game. Somehow, I don't think we're gonna be so lucky with RDR3.

[u/NupraptorsHead → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

I don't think we will ever see RDR3

[u/FrozGate → u/NupraptorsHead]

GTA Online has ruined Rockstar.

Since 2013, the only major release we've seen from them is RDR2, which was likely in development before the huge success of GTA V.

For over a decade, they've focused almost entirely on GTA 5, and seeing how massive GTA 6 is going to be, it seems unlikely that any new titles will be released in the near future.

[u/NupraptorsHead → u/FrozGate]

I agree. I love RDR2, and it's my favourite game too but GTA online ruined it. They abandoned RDR online in like a year or so? They will milk every bit out of GTA 6

[u/FrozGate → u/NupraptorsHead]

Yea, it's shame they abandonned RDR online.

Would've been great to see a Bully 2 or a new IP from them. They used to make a bunch of cool games in the passed.

The turd that was GTA trilogy remaster made me lose faith in them. Hard to imagine they would release such poor remasters for their most beloved games.

San Andreas was the worst. Can't believe how badly they dropped the ball on such an iconic game that frankly deserved a full remake.

But it is what it is. Sorry about the rant lol

[u/NupraptorsHead → u/FrozGate]

I would love to see another bully, manhunt or even remake of the Warriors but sadly I don't think we will see them

[u/WhiteChocolatey → u/FrozGate]

Story DLC was never going to happen once GTA online showed it’s potential as a cash cow.

[u/FrozGate → u/WhiteChocolatey]

Yea they actually cancelled GTA 5 story DLC.

[u/WhiteChocolatey → u/FrozGate]

So unfortunate.

[u/stefan771 → u/FrozGate]

That is because they merged all of their studios into one unit because of the games they want to make. GTA Online gives them a constant flow of income so they can do this.

[u/YifukunaKenko → u/FrozGate]

I miss the ps2 days where they wouldn’t focus too much on GTA and actually made other titles like Manhunt, Bully or The warriors. Agent was cancelled but at least they had the effort to make new IP. Now GtA online is all they work on

[u/Imperator_Oliver → u/FrozGate]

IMO rockstar should quadruple their development team, and actually prioritize the IPs fans have been asking for a sequel

[u/FrozGate → u/Imperator_Oliver]

I agree but it's less risky and more profitable for them to milk what they have than to create new games that won't sell as much as GTA.

It's estimated that GTA 5 alone generates 1 billion dollars in revenue a year.

[u/Imperator_Oliver → u/FrozGate]

Bully 2 isn’t risky, maybe LA Noire 2 or Warriors 2 is risky but small budget means low risk high profit.

[u/FrozGate → u/Imperator_Oliver]

You know what's even less risky? Milking GTA online and selling shark cards.

While Bully 2 would certainly sell, the profits from it would be much smaller compared to what they earn from focusing on GTA.

I'm sure those with more expertise than you or I have weighed these options. If there was more money to be made they would pursue it.

[u/TheBishopDeeds → u/FrozGate]

For over a decade, they've focused almost entirely on GTA 5

This couldn't be further from the truth.

They had a little crew of maybe 100 people working on GTAO.. but they started working on RDR2 as soon as 5 was done and started working on 6 as soon as RDR2 was done.

[u/DEBESTE2511 → u/FrozGate]

Lets be honest, it would be a miracle if GTA6 even comes close to GTA5 in therms of succes

[u/Constant_Badger_9136 → u/DEBESTE2511]

Have u seen the views the video got, especially within a hour? The hype is insane too it will succeed as much as gta 5 and gta 5 honestly isn't the highest of standards to beat.

[u/VanguardDeezNuts → u/NupraptorsHead]

Going the way of Half Life

[u/MummysSpecialBoy → u/NupraptorsHead]

It's their second most popular franchise aint no way they're giving up on it

[u/RedditOakley → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

But they easily abandoned the online version quickly and left it to rot in a very uninspired state.
It could have easily become a amazing haven for roleplayers and a highly immersive game. But they didn't just want dough, they wanted the entire bakery. So GTA got all the focus instead.

Likely that is where their focus will stay.

[u/NupraptorsHead → u/RedditOakley]

There's so much more they could have done with RDR online

[u/NupraptorsHead → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

Like they did with RDR online?

[u/PrivateTidePods → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

They might make another red dead but the “redemption” story is done

[u/MummysSpecialBoy → u/PrivateTidePods]

i doubt it the concept of redemption is versatile enough to cover many many maaaany stories

[u/PrivateTidePods → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

I of course meant the main characters/gang

[u/MummysSpecialBoy → u/PrivateTidePods]

unrelated but your profile picture provokes a visceral disgust within me

[u/PrivateTidePods → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

Cool

[u/diplion → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

I think western themed stuff has to hit at a very specific cultural time to really work.

GTA kinda always works because it’s set in the current time but also that kind of satire has to hit at the right cultural moment as well.

[u/MummysSpecialBoy → u/diplion]

Westerns are incredibly popular. Everyone loves cowboys! I don't get this points.

[u/diplion → u/MummysSpecialBoy]

Are westerns incredibly popular right now?

It seems to me like it comes in waves.

[u/Ni_Ce_]

but release was on 26th october.

[u/Jay-Aaron → u/[deleted]]

It means you gave the wrong date.

[u/Ni_Ce_ → u/[deleted]]

yes. in 9 days were old.

[u/Bell_of_Speed → u/[deleted]]

Good lord, the amount of downvotes

[u/PrestigiousStuff6173]

Red Dead 2 was released on October 26 2018

[u/heinous_legacy]

im afraid

[u/El_Jefe-o7]

After not getting any good content on the multi-player side or a 60 fps patch on console. I wish this game would have came 2 or 3 years later. Maybe then it could have had a longer lifespan...

[u/ZiangoRex]

The inbred retelling of Romeo and Juliet

[u/Jerkmeoff21115]

Truley a masterpiece . And it’s not eaven glazeing

[u/Evilsmile]

"The Godfather" of video games, IMO.

[u/GamingWildman]

i was in 11th grade when rdr2 came out on pc and i went into it blind.
now I am working and repurchased it on ps5 cause why now

[u/charliegs1996]

I remember it as if it was yesterday. Best game I've ever played.

[u/AoXGhost]

And Still keeps surprising me with something i haven’t seen or done before.. Endless classic!

[u/DVNBart]

I'm playing first time right now. It's incredible, the game with the highest level of details of the history!
I sometimes stop to admire the scenery and wonder "how did they make it run on original PS4?"
(i know that the level of details was of course different from PC maxed out settings but still something to wonder about)

[u/UnhappyIsland5804]

I still remember the hype. Best game of my life.

[u/No_Percentage_19]

That’s mad to think about. What a game.

[u/Shirokurou]

Bought it a month ago for half price. It's new to me.

[u/DC-Legend417]

Wow

[u/master-shake99]

didnt it came out in the 26th?

[u/Open-Mathematician32]

Young pups.

[u/Drigg_08]

I was already old when gta v came out...

[u/P4r4th0x1c]

Its only being 6 years… chill. Now imagine playing shenmue 1 and 2 in 2000 when i was 10, waiting for a 3rd installment for 20 years (becoming a father of 2 in between) and getting so disappointed that i never finished the so awaited s3. Shenmue taught me patience 🤜🤛🫡

[u/Internal_Formal3915]

I'm afraid.

[u/omc_q → u/Internal_Formal3915]

Of lumbago

[u/Internal_Formal3915 → u/omc_q]

Well that does come with age

[u/darealarusham]

I remember the night the first trailer dropped and my cousin showed me it. I was 9 i think and 11 when the game eventually came out lol

[u/njasmodeus]

I still have a save from then.

[u/omc_q]

6 years 😢 yet still no game can‘t beat rdr2. Simply the best, most realistic game. Even if it wouldn’t be that realistic, the emotions I felt while playing is insane no other game did that with me.

[u/Lesmiscat24601]

I still remember having it ordered for pick up at my local GameStop and having my Dad pick it up for me while I was at school. Good times.

[u/Acceptable_Exercise5]

Just turned 78 this year, can truly say it is scary being old. I remember being a boy and games so was basic. It’s so beautiful seeing how much it developed. Out of the thousands of games I’ve played, red dead redemption 2 is the best game I’ve ever played.

[u/Punch_A_Lot]

this game will never feel old just like arkham knight , guess how old that is

[u/CzarofBeartopia]

coughs in TB sun's setting on us, partner

[u/Un0riginal5]

I was 13 Jfc that crazy.

I remember getting this game for cleaning my garage lmao.

[u/BobGoddamnSaget]

My mom died on October 8th, 2018. Afterwards, me and my dad took a trip to New York to drop my sister off back to her home there, but more importantly to get away from everything. It was a very morose trip, but also enjoyable given the circumstances.

When I got back home, Red Dead Redemption 2 was waiting for me pre downloaded on my Xbox when my best friend who I was game sharing with went ahead and just bought it without asking me to split, for obvious reasons.

This game saved me, as dumb as it sounds. Helped distract me from a horrible time in life and gave me something to look forward to. I’m currently towards the end of Arthur’s story on my second play through and am appreciating the game even more now that I have a fully clear mind to go through it.

I will, however, be forever thankful for the experience it provided me during that tumultuous time. As if RDR2 needed another reason to be considered a top 5 game of all time for me, that’s a big one right there.

Outlaws for life.

[u/biffbot13]

Still the best game I’ve ever played. And the only game that made me cry at the end

[u/johnny-tiny-tits]

I know plenty of others have pointed out already, but I knew October 16th wasn't right because I took a vacation from work to coincide with its release, and I distinctly remember being gone through Halloween.

[u/ChromeGhost76]

When this came out I was a freshly divorced middle aged man and I needed a win. This is the only game I took a day off work to play and it was totally worth it.

[u/king_ender200]

Such a good game, I’m glad I have the Honour of playing it!

[u/_AA15_]

Hopefully they can manage to release a graphics optimization update, because until then, I cant play rdr2 due to it having "driver issues" even after I've updated my drivers

[u/[deleted]]

Now I am 85 shit changed

[u/Existing-Green-6978]

I took a vacation day and woke up early. It was everything I wanted and a million times more. My favorite game.

[u/Additional-Cress-915]

Bruh

[u/Jimmilton102]

Rdr>Gta

[u/DinosaurInAPartyHat]

It was only 6 years ago.

Not exactly a time period that makes me feel "old".

I assume you are in your teens or very early 20s OP.

[u/thesensenmann2000]

Damn 2018? It feels like it was a year ago

[u/Stock_Explanation_23]

Was the 26th

[u/lightarcmw]

Man… 2018… Good times

[u/Prestigious_Beat6650]

6 years ago Jesus!. That way it is I guess

[u/Navajo_Nation]

This game has such long longevity and worthy play throughs you’d do over again. Rockstar showed what they can do time and time again. Can’t wait what they show what they can do with ps5 specs and gta vi

[u/Gs4life-]

26th

[u/LovelessDogg]

Our time has passed, John.

[u/awood1602]

Why has there been no ps5 port of this? 😭

[u/Zahin1018]

2018 was 6 years ago

[u/neodutch]

I bought the game for €1,75 cd version and played it for 1week on my xbox….dajjum this game is the best played single player game ever!! I just wanna finish the story before i dare too join online😂the guy in the shop told he wish he could trade brains so he could enjoy it for a 1st time again! Hehe

[u/KevinsJame]

I’m reading this as I’m taking a break from my first full play through. Absolute masterpiece

[u/jaispeed2011]

I was already old then..

[u/unknownmalone_03]

Damm I was only 15 when this came out now I'm turning 21 in 2 months lol

[u/ImprovizoR]

Kind of unbelievable that they managed to get this to run on the PS4, considering how good it looks even compared to some current gen games.

[u/Soft-Recognition-763]

4 years from now, this game is gonna be a decade old in 2028

[u/ZiangoRex]

I wonder what the third one will be. Going back further or we play as Jack again.

[u/Reallyroundthefamily]

And I still play it regularly and still occasionally find new stuff.

Best game ever.

[u/DSN671]

I hope Red Dead 3 is in the prime years of the Wild West, with the protagonist being either a Native American or the unknown man that saved Hosea from a hanging when he was younger.

[u/fatihberberh]

Still like yesterday

[u/ESPILFIRE]

My biggest wish as a gamer is for them to release 60fps for the game on consoles. I don't need any more improvements, give me the game as it is on One X and PS4PRO but it's 60fps on Series X and PS5.

[u/DrHienzDoofenshmirtz]

Yo, I didn't realise this released on my birthday!

[u/WakefulSolace]

Just recently back to playing RDR2, on my Steam Deck this time. Played it a ton on PS4 since 2018 and it never got old.

[u/Claudius_Marcellus]

Game came out the first semester of medical school..almost flunked cause of it ngl. But after that life happens well now I'm a doctor and I always look back at that first semester and chuckle.

[u/east_steam96]

Since R* killed it, gues you could say it didnt age well

[u/ceres014]

[u/killagorilla1337]

But not RDR2