r/reddeadmysteries • u/skizwald • May 13 '21
Game Files I have found evidence of cut cattle rustling and herding as free roam activities. It appears at some point cattle rustling would have been similar to home robberies. I also found sound files from farmers, asking for help herding/driving sheep, cows, horses, and goats, and offering pay.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FjAA6Toeumg&feature=share89
u/eq017210 May 13 '21
It's amazing how many cut content has been found thanks to the code, it really gives you an idea about how even bigger would be this game if not for the console's limitations or if it had even more development time
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u/MaleficentAstronomer May 13 '21
I wish they'd release this stuff as dlc.
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u/Cyrus-Lion May 14 '21
Nah, not enough money in it. Better add more MTX avenues
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u/MaleficentAstronomer May 14 '21
The way I see it though, if the assets are already there, why not use them? They've got to be worth something.
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u/Cyrus-Lion May 14 '21
It'd make sense too, and be proffered by the player base.
But money talks louder then joy when your greedy
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u/bino420 May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21
I'm sure Take Two knows what they're doing but I can't imagine MTX make as much money as a $20-40 expansion. Even redoing RDR1 in this engine... Feels like it'd net more profit than a handful of whales. Like the number of single player RDR2 players must be 10x the number of RDO folks.
It's gotta be a short-term over long-term business thing.
But also begs the question: why not both online and single player expansions/DLC??
Because it would make sense to me that pulling back single player gamers every 6-12 months with offline content could easily get them to play online more. It'd sure get me booting up the game more.
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May 14 '21
Microtransactions are WAY more profitable than DLC. There’s absolutely a reason why they are pushed so hard while DLC gets scarcer and scarcer.
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u/Cyrus-Lion May 14 '21
Whales are a tiny amount of the market but account for hundreds of millions in sales. The math is insane I gotta find the article I read on it
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u/chubbug May 13 '21
y'know i've always wondered about the herding mechanic in game? like the only mission that i remember that incorporates it is in chapter 2 with john and arther herding sheep
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May 14 '21
You herd horses for that photographer guy. But I agree, it seemed like it was going to be a mechanic, not just a mission-specific thing.
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u/eq017210 May 13 '21
Well, Moonshining was cut content since he code was found from the beginning but it came as a DLC
Maybe we'll get something similar, as a DLC for online mode for a price of 50 gold bars...
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u/Squiddy4 May 14 '21
a lot of the online stuff looks cool but moving three times as fast as single player kills it for me
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u/eq017210 May 14 '21
Oh yeah, the excessive speed, and flash like reloading animations are ridiculous, along with the abilities dead eye cards give you lol
It's really obvious Rockstar tried too hard to make kids interested in the gunplay making it faster like GTA
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u/skizwald May 13 '21
Def could we it as an online addition. Like" Rusttling and Rancher" or something like that
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u/AbominaSean May 13 '21
Even though they were simple activities, I enjoyed doing the horse breaking ranch-hand jobs at different towns in the first RDR. I was expecting RDR2 to be an expansion of that, in that each city/town/settlement would have repeatable farmer/bounty hunter/ranch hand activities. Really gives you that traveling nomad, lone-wolf cowboy feeling.
Instead they basically cut all of that from the game and only halfway implemented it into online.
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u/Nope_God May 14 '21
Even though they were simple activities, I enjoyed doing the horse breaking ranch-hand jobs at different towns in the first RDR. I was expecting RDR2 to be an expansion of that, in that each city/town/settlement would have repeatable farmer/bounty hunter/ranch hand activities. Really gives you that traveling nomad, lone-wolf cowboy feeling.
I disagree, RDR2 kinda had those things, and even more, you can sell horses to stables, goods to stores, meat to butchers and plants/tonics to medics, as well as the camp/ranch chores. The only thing they didn't really kept was the Bounty Hunting.
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u/AbominaSean May 16 '21
They cut bounty hunting which was kinda key and horse breaking jobs. Red dead 1 already had hunting and selling pelts, claws, meat, etc so that’s not new...it also had herb collecting and tonics. I guess it’s cool they added the chores but they didn’t need to cut jobs to add that.
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u/temawimag Aug 03 '21
Dude your comment history is fucking boring
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u/AbominaSean Aug 03 '21
Omg, I found your Spyro and magic card posts. Lmfao
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u/temawimag Aug 03 '21
...Do you know which sub this is?
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u/AbominaSean Aug 03 '21
Red dead redemption? Hey, it’s no Spyro the children’s dragon, but it’s pretty fun!
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u/temawimag Aug 03 '21
>My super serious game for grown-ups!
You're literally saying the same crap as a Call of Duty 12 year old.
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u/AbominaSean Aug 03 '21
Trying to speak to you on your level…now that I know you’re an actual 12 year old.
I honestly feel bad now.
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u/johnnyrocket85 May 13 '21
I always thought it was strange that there was a whole mission for learning how to heard animals and you pretty much never do it again.
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u/Laura_and_the_wolf May 14 '21
You're right, amigo! After that mission I thought I could steal cows and sheep to make money or herd farm animals in a future ranch job or for someone paying. Why not?.. with a faithful shepherd dog, rescued by a random idiot on a side mission. It would have been nice go for a walk with my dog and my horse, in free roam mode :)
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u/SamKhan23 May 14 '21
I could not have handled that dog dying though. That would be even worse than the horse
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u/Laura_and_the_wolf May 14 '21
Definitely! I had to put my beloved dog down in February 2020 for lung cancer 💔. That scene would have devastated me (I played RDR2 in late 2020), but I think someone could have taken the dog with him/her, maybe Tilly (but you wouldn't be able to play with that dog anymore) or John (instead of Rufus). It would surely have been... a loving act.
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u/KoalaKvothe May 14 '21
If only RDO had never existed. Ah, what could have been. Imagine if RDR2 had come out with the same success in R*'s Ballad of Gay Tony era.
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May 13 '21 edited May 15 '21
Folks swing for rustling cattle.
25%!
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u/Devilled_Advocate May 13 '21
Since you're the creator of this fine video, I hope you don't mind some notes on your graphics.
Choose better fonts for the title. Arial and military stencil just ain't cuttin it.
And the main title is hard to read. The kerning is too narrow, and the gradient on pure white makes it a bit eyebleedy.
There's a dropped frame when the vertical bar lands. Why is there a gap when the title comes out from behind it?
I'd just look for a more elegant way to have the title appear. I think the whole title format needs a complete redesign, and I'm sure you will eventually. Your videos will look a lot more slick when you do.
The simple subtitles after that look fine though. It gets a little harder to read when there's other text behind it. I suggest a black bar across the frame for the subtitles to live in so they don't have to compete with the background.
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u/skizwald May 13 '21
Thank you for the constructive feedback. Video editing and graphic design are really mot my forte.Im using a relatively bare bones video editor as well.
To be honest the only reason I make videos is for this sub specifically. If you look at some of the older videos, you can see I have progressed. I have progressed a little.
When I was making the video, I definitely regretted having the subtitles in while recording in game, but wasnt too concerned about it. It definitely makes it ablittle harder to read.
As for the title sequence. First time I did one. Thought it would better with an intro. I used a template and just changed it a little.
I'm trying my best
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u/kyle429 May 14 '21
I've recently had a cattle rustling side mission pop up as a gang member activity in the camp, with Uncle. Chapter 2 or 3, can't remember. This is like my 4th or 5th playthrough and it's the first time I've gotten it, that I can remember. My last time playing the game was in 2019 lol.
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u/skizwald May 14 '21
Its only available in chapter 4, with uncle, after the "Angelo Bronte Man of Honor mission", but it seems like they had more cattle robberies planned, but only left the 1 incamp activity, and the sheep stealing main story mission with John.
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u/kyle429 May 14 '21
Ah okay, cool. Yeah I couldn't remember what chapter it was in. Those are the only 2 rustling missions I remember. Would've been cool to have more similar missions or side missions.
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u/childishsurgeon May 14 '21
I Stg I've gone cattle rusting with Uncle one night on that farm up near Rhodes but its never happened again so maybe it hapepnd in my imagination
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u/SnewchieBoochies May 14 '21
Which makes more sense than them cutting it all out. Jesus Rockstar...fucking seriously?
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u/batfish55 May 14 '21
Don't know if it's related to what you're talking about, but you DO know that when you're camped at Shady Belle, if you just hang around long enough, Uncle will offer to go cattle rustling. So it's one of those missions, but I don't know if they'd planned on going and doing that free roam.
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u/skizwald May 14 '21
I mention that in the video, and also there submission with John where you steal some sheep.
I found sounds files from the prisoners who give you home robbery tips. They also have cut lines where they gave you robbery tips for ranches horses, sheep, and cows.
I also found sound files from ranchers asking the player to herd animal, take them to pasture, and asking to recover lost and stolen herds. So it is in the game, but they cut it being a free roam activity/more common companion activity.
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u/batfish55 May 14 '21
Mmmk. Sorry if I was redundant. People posting youtube videos instead of just typing is kind of a pet peeve of mine. Yes, I know I'm in the minority. But I can skim through a text file or just use ctrl-F to find what I want NOW instead of waiting through posted videos.
I'm a console gamer, so poking through game files isn't an option for me. But I gotta admit, some of the stuff people dig up is pretty cool/fun/interesting. Don't know why they culled so much fun side stuff. :-(
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u/skizwald May 14 '21
All good. I would have added more info in the title, but they only allow 300 characters when linking to a video. I've posted walls if texts before, but it seems like lots of people hate reading them, and they get ignored. At least a video is some what entertaining.
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u/Overzealosaurus May 14 '21
I’m vindicated! My first Reddit post was theorizing this would be in the released game as side activities and when it never came up during the story I was bummed. So neat to hear about the potential activities from the game. Makes ya wish you could try them tho
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u/Fckkn_Gio May 15 '21
I wish they would’ve kept this. I always wanted to see if you could lead a goat to the pentagram in butchers creek to kill and see if it triggers anything.
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May 14 '21
Herding cows in rdr1 may be my least favourite game mechanic. Very glad they left it out for 2 to be honest
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u/ksawerain May 14 '21
I'd love more farming activities but i'm glad there's no cattle rusting. It was a pain in the ass in the first game.
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May 14 '21
There is a side mission you can do with uncle in chapter three about this. They go up to hill haven and rustle their cows and shit
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u/Squijjy May 15 '21
The only time I saw anything like this was uncle had a companion mission to go do rustling. I would’ve gone but I was trying to do a realistic RP playthrough and it was 2am; Arthur needs his beauty sleep
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u/zedbagsjr May 30 '21
For a while I thought you could rustle animals but I just never did it cause I wasn't interested
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u/themajor24 May 31 '21
I always figured they had cut some optional missions involving cattle and livestock. The sheep rustling mission really over explained the method.
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u/Majick_L May 13 '21
I’d love for more farming type activities at Beechers Hope to be added like being able to ride the cart out and do deliveries of milk, repairs etc