r/reddeadmysteries Dec 04 '18

Investigation For The Love Of God, Can We Start Investigating The Supposed Indian Ghosts Of Valentine Mentioned In-Game?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

I keep seeing people saying this. Are there really that many examples of this happening in R* games? I'm honestly curious, because RDR2 - from my experience - feels extremely polished. I could say the same about their previous games too.

I might be remember incorrectly though!

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u/BeTheGame007 Dec 04 '18

people tend to think because GTAV single player was said to have cut content that RDR2 will too...

I have heard nothing at all about cut content in RDR2 so I think it's just speculation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

(I'm not the person you replied to, but the one before that) I didn't mean so much cut content examples, but examples of poor clean up. I think they also cut out prostitution and stuff, but I haven't really seen remnants of it, only that they stated stuff was cut.

I'm not arguing, I was just genuinely curious because I hadn't seen stuff like that in my time with it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18 edited Dec 04 '18

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u/lNTERLINKED Dec 05 '18

They added a jetpack in online after like 4 years.

It's a... sore point.

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u/Dalamari Dec 06 '18

There's no evidence to suggest prostitution was cut. There are plenty of bits of lore with no conclusion or story triggers.

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u/BeTheGame007 Dec 04 '18

bout time I got one.

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u/slotog Dec 05 '18

Dan Houser said they cut about 5 hours of content in that same interview where he talks about working 100 hour weeks

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u/BeTheGame007 Dec 05 '18

yeah I didn't do too much research about it because of work and all that. thanks to you all for updating me :)

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u/Dalamari Dec 05 '18

Glad that you offered your input after having done no research whatsoever

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u/InfectionPonch Dec 05 '18

They said they cutted about 4 hours of content (can't recall if main story or side quests).

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u/Hamish89 Dec 05 '18

Single player story was cut from 65 hours down to 60 hours, but I don’t know if something like this would be classed as ‘story’ so who knows...

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u/BeTheGame007 Dec 05 '18

5hrs is quite a bit of content... u think they would sacrifice the mystery content again after last time (GTAV)

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u/NihilisticCrusader Dec 20 '18

There's several articles out now since you originally posted that confirm dozens and dozens of hours of cut content. I unfortunately think a lot of these mysterious things such as the ghosts of valentine and izk were left on the cutting room floor.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

Say it with me... D L C

I have faith.

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u/teamspeed16 Dec 04 '18

I don't even know if you were trying... But I immediately read that in Dutch's voice....

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u/Dalamari Dec 05 '18

You expect DLC that adds in endings to some loose sidequests?

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u/VALAR_M0RGHUL1S Dec 05 '18

For sure overheard an npc or someone in town talking about spooky stuff going on at the church. Was a while ago now I really can't remember what they said but it was some mysterious stuff related to the church and I remember thinking at the time "I bet later I'll find out more about this". Never did.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

remember the jetpack.

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u/TheAspectofAkatosh Dec 06 '18

Late;

It's possibly related to DLC, but let's be honest. GTA IV had many Easter eggs in the internet referring to vampires, gators in the sewers, and more. It's likely nothing.

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u/doontmindme Dec 05 '18

Actually I was in the saloon the other day and some guy walked up to me and started talking about ghost and curse of valentine. I tried to loot him to no effect and didn’t think more of it know I am seeing this so there might be something there

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u/CmonCalamari Dec 04 '18 edited Dec 04 '18

People talk about the ‘Valentine curse’ a lot in game but I have never heard or seen anything odd around the town.

Has anyone found the ‘artifacts’ around town?

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u/teamspeed16 Dec 04 '18

You get an arrow head from the dream catchers quest.... Does that count? Maybe the fertility dolls?

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u/CmonCalamari Dec 05 '18

Not sure. I assumed it meant stuff like you can find at different points of interest, not necessarily items. The ghost canoe sounds cool though.

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u/getpossessed PS4 Dec 04 '18

People ma disagree with this, but a lot of these mysteries are really just storytelling devices and won’t turn up anything. But if there is something to actually be found concerning this post, I would love to see it because the whole area is spooky.

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u/classicvinyl66 Dec 05 '18

Came here to say this. While it would be cool, my guess would be that this is just world building.

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u/lordbaryon564 Dec 05 '18

Agree. Seems the games pretty straight forward about what it wants to you to see. Some people look in too deep

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u/THEW0NDERW0MBAT Dec 04 '18

I remember Karen talking about it after visiting Valentine in chapter 2. She says something about an Eagle or Owl being involved.

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u/littlefishsticks Dec 04 '18

And a grave

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u/rophel Dec 04 '18

Idea: kill eagle, put corpse on random graves in town

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u/Killspree90 Dec 04 '18

And have sex on said grave with eagle

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u/throwaway786305 Dec 05 '18

Oh. Oh that escalated really quickly there partner.

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u/overlookers Dec 05 '18

Someone encountered a Great Horn on a rock, that screeched and summoned wolves. But, that was posted ages ago. If anyone has seen anything similar, we might have a Manitou situation on our hands.

Has anyone squated at Fort Riggs or the adjacent river until 2am? That seems like the magic hour for ghosts to spawn.

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u/25ylate Dec 05 '18

One time near valentine in the woods I came upon a magnificent white deer that couldn’t be analysed (R1) and then a pack of wolves attacked me

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u/elhijodeltiger Dec 04 '18

Who is Karen?

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u/CJB95 Dec 04 '18

Blonde you save in the hotel

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u/elhijodeltiger Dec 05 '18

Thanks! Didn't remember her name

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

There's also an in-game newspaper article that refers to odd supernatural sightings near the river related to an Indian curse, I'm pretty sure it's the first newspaper you can buy in Valentine, towards the bottom after the fold (I'm at work so can't confirm).

I camped at the river nearest Valentine until night but didn't observe anything out of place.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '18

I don’t know why I unconsciously started reading this in Ryan’s voice from buzzfeed unsolved.

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u/Yunglord2k Dec 07 '18

Could be related to that drunk ex soldier guy you meet during a chance encounter that has the Native American bracelet or whatever it was. He expressed guilt over his past actions.

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u/BigBoiiTyrel Dec 05 '18

NPCs I encountered in the town mention a ghost canoe in a river around Valentine, never checked it out though.

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u/SpectralEntity Dec 05 '18

I haven’t any canoes!

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u/cmeleep Dec 12 '18

This sort of reminds me of something I saw on tv awhile ago about an actual curse on a river in Maine (if one believes in curses). I think I learned about it because of that show based on Stephen King’s works, Castle Rock. The curse was either mentioned in the show itself, or it was mentioned in one of the “behind the scenes” videos.

Here’s a link to the story. This thing in RDR2 might be a reference to the real-life Saco curse? If it sounds plausible to anyone else, maybe someone could test it by going swimming around there, or just wandering around the river to see if a ghost appears or something?

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u/The-Peryton Mar 24 '22

The link leads nowhere but cool insight! I’ll definitely be looking into this

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u/yurieu Dec 06 '18

Rockstar loves putting spooky ghost easter eggs, so i'm sure this aint a red hearing.

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u/RetardedRattleSnake Jan 06 '19

If there a river near valentine? The only body of water I can remember is the area you go fishing with Jack, and that's no where near valentine. Or an I being dumb and confusing parts of the map?

There's a ghost train, ghost people and I imagine a ghost horse in the game somewhere, so a ghost canoe wouldn't be too far fetched.

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u/Lon_Young Nov 11 '24

Theres also an article in one of the newspapers from valentine that said people have seen phantom canoes in the water. Which area of water it doesn't say. Thought this was very interesting! I have seen indians on horses on the mountain cliff overlooking valentine.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

Is this going to be like night folk? Because if it is, I'm here for it.

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u/suwavey Dec 05 '18

No they native Indians

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u/GlaciusTS Dec 05 '18

Probably cut content, but let’s hope they follow up on this sort of stuff post launch.