r/privaussie • u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion • Oct 26 '24
Where to buy non-smart TVs in Australia?
I don't want a TV that tracks my stuff. I don't even wanna just not connect it to the internet. Anyone know any 4k non-smart TVs that are found in Australia?
Thanks!
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u/slightlyvapid_johnny Oct 26 '24
Just get a normal smart TV and then not let it connect to the internet.
If you are annoying get like a TCL 4k tv idk where you can find it but they are smart and non smart models but you really wouldnt get it any cheaper because large monitors are expensive
Else search on gumtree for ffalcon tvs
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Oct 26 '24
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u/FTTN7195 Oct 26 '24
Every Smart TV I've owned based on Android is extremely sluggish, even for basic tasks like simply switching sources.
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u/ScoobaMonsta Oct 27 '24
Just don't connect it to the internet. That's what I do. Mine is essentially a massive 85" monitor. Only has HDMI cable connected to it. WiFi and Bluetooth is turned off.
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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Oct 27 '24
Already said I don't wanna "just not connect it to the internet". I'd rather spend the extra time and money looking for a non-smart TV than buy one of those damned things.
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Nov 07 '24
I don't have any suggestions, but I'd just like to say shame on the people for trying to force their views of a Smart TV onto you. You want a dumb TV (like I would one day), so they should be answering your question rather than preaching to a brick wall.
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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Nov 08 '24
Sorry in advance for the super long ramble, but you hit the nail so massively on the head that I need to speak my mind too.
I will be the first to admit, I am a very stubborn and abrasive person, especially when it comes to what I choose to buy. I have my standards, and I will absolutely not be persuaded to abandon them, especially unsolicited. This sub was giving me a lot of what I explicitly said I didn't wanna hear, but at least they weren't obnoxiously rude about it. Yes, I might be making it harder on myself. No, that doesn't mean I'm going to take the easy route.
Worst I encountered was on r/hometheater. Just read this garbage. The worst of it was deleted, but I don't get the absolute vitriol I got. I get it, I'm a stubborn guy who knows what he wants. But the top comment was someone talking about "da truuuuth." That same guy kept arguing with me, including responding to someone else's suggestion of commercial displays "they're prohibitively expensive and have shit picture quality", when I told him I didn't care about price, he said "you don't care? fine, get an LED wall." Interestingly, he never actually suggested what LED wall to get. Because he doesn't have one. Because he wasn't there to help, he was there to argue. His responses are now mostly deleted, but I remember them well. Notice how the top comments are arguing with me and right down the bottom are the people who link TVs that fit my standards. Another comment was someone saying "heh look at this guy's post history". Imagine if I went into a thread asking for a good smart TV and went "No smart TVs suck buy a dumb TV instead." That's the level of garbage these people are spouting.
This one too. All his replies are deleted, but mine aren't and I think anyone can piece together the context from my responses. I listed the exact brand and model I wanted, and his only response was "why don't you want a smart TV?" Before going on to say "Fine, buy whatever junk you want, this is a home theater sub where picture quality matters" as though I give a solitary fuck what r/hometheater thinks of my chosen TV's picture quality.
That, I think, is a huge problem with the internet. People don't see people asking for help with something as an opportunity to assist someone out of the goodness of their heart's; they see it as an argument against them that they have to win. Nobody on that r/hometheater sub wanted to help me buy a TV, bar the comments down the very bottom. The others didn't. They wanted to argue with me. It didn't matter that it was about TVs, they saw someone wanting something they didn't care about as an attack on them that they had to defend. You think the guy saying "so I'm giving the truth which apparently you don't want to hear" gives a shit what TV I buy? Of course not. You think this guy actually wants to help me buy a TV? Nonsense. They need to feed their ego by "winning" arguments against people who don't like what they like.
Again, I get it, I'm an abrasive guy who very well may be unreasonable zealous in my hatred of smart TVs. But anyone who wants to argue with me, or anyone looking to buy a product that suits their standards, needs to understand that it literally does not effect you. I'm not going to go smash other people's smart TVs, I don't give a shit if people think smart TVs are great, I made my mind up and I'm not budging. And if people think that's unreasonable, they can just...not participate. Nobody is forcing these people to comment. Nobody is forcing them to waste their and my time starting an argument about how I'm dumb and stupid for wanting to buy a product with my own money. Plenty of people have tried. Do you think the guy with 22 upvotes that I got -39 downvotes with basically telling me I'm an idiot for not buying a smart TV convinced me? Clearly not, otherwise I wouldn't be asking here later. But again, they're not actually interested in helping me, they want to sate their own ego by pretending they totally won an argument against me that they started. That guy 100% walked off thinking he was an absolute intellectual mastermind for telling that stupid u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion that he was an idiot for not agreeing with him. Reality? What a sad, pathetic person.
Seriously, people need to stop doing this shit. I'm an adult, I'll buy what I want with my own fucking money. If you don't like that? Tough shit. If you're genuinely upset that I'm not going to humour your unwanted recycled advice about just buying a smart TV and not connecting it to the internet, grow up. I made clear where I stood, I made clear I wasn't budging, so any "advice" that isn't "here is a model" or "look for this genre they make non-smart TVs" is worthless to me. And if they still think that your opinion is worth anything, then you need to get your ego checked, because it means less than nothing to me. If you think that's rude? I think it's rude that you don't want to respect my very clear wishes that I not hear the same garbage over and over again. Nobody, in the history of ever, cares if you think you know better than them in terms of what product they buy. And if they do? They'll ask. And they especially won't explicitly tell you that they don't care about your opinion.
Sorry for the massive rant, but I agreed with you so hard I needed to speak my mind. Also, consider the Soniq 55" UHD LED LCD TV. It's explicitly listed as not being a smart TV. It's probably what I'm going to buy.
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u/PROPHET-EN4SA Nov 07 '24
Most TV's made are Smart TV's these days. You could do an Amazon search for "dumb TV", most of these are intended for commercial use so they wont have the same picture quality as a normal TV but will do the trick. Like others said, you really would be better off buying a smart TV, not connecting or signing in to anything on it, and using something like an Apple TV or Nvidia Shield as your main entertainment box connected via HDMI.
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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Nov 07 '24
You ever actually tried searching for "dumb TV" on Amazon or something? It's all smart TVs anyway. They even say "smart TV" on them. It's complete bullshit.
I already said I was not going to just buy one and not connect it to the internet. Someone suggested a brand that I'm probably going to buy, Soniq. Commercial displays will work too, I did some looking and found some online that I like.
Please understand, I made my mind up about this before I made this post. I very zealously refuse to have a smart TV. Everyone else already said "Just don't connect it to the internet", and I didn't listen to them. People continuing to try and say "Just buy a smart TV" is a pointless endeavour on your end and not super helpful on my end. It won't make me "better off", or I would have done it. I made my mind up, and I'd rather get help on my chosen path rather than people try and convince me to do the thing I very much do not want to do. I have a very old dumb TV that's maybe 1080p max. I would rather keep using that than buy a smart TV. Always. That's why I'm asking for dumb TVs.
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u/PROPHET-EN4SA Nov 07 '24
Completely your decision. If you want to go the hard way, thats on you. Finding a decent dumb TV these days is not easy. Good luck.
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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Nov 07 '24
It is my decision, and I know I'm choosing the hard way. I know I won't get as good picture quality, I know they might be more expensive, but I am extremely zealous in not having a smart TV in my house. I'd rather people try and help me go through the hard way than convince me to take the easy way and buy a smart TV. It's why I appreciate your suggestion for commercial displays and don't appreciate being told to buy a smart TV and not connect it to the internet.
The SONIQ 55" UHD LED LCD TV is probably what I'm going to buy. It's not smart, it's priced within my budget, it's 4k. Those fit my specifications fine enough for me.
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u/asif00013 Oct 26 '24
Your best bet would be to get a large monitor