r/onguardforthee • u/PotentialReporter894 • 3d ago
Opinion: Here are two arguments for keeping Canada's carbon tax
https://thestarphoenix.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-here-are-two-arguments-for-keeping-canadas-carbon-tax51
u/Simsmommy1 3d ago
I am so sick and tired of people thinking removing this tax is going to do a damn thing to gas and/or grocery/goods prices….corporations are going to use this to pad their bottom line and not a dang thing will change except we will lose our rebate and be subjected to more tariffs. Falling for a snappy rhyme and a dingbat idea that a carbon tax has made everything expensive and not corporate greed, capitalism and unchecked monopolies on our countries food supply is the biggest accomplishment of the PP and his party….fooling everyone….now all he has to do when he gets into government is remove the tax and shrug and say he doesn’t know why nothing is cheaper he did what he promised.
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u/NWTknight 20h ago
The reason to remove the tax is it is not a revenue generating tax but social manipulation to change your energy use mix. The problem is to much of that is baked into long term infrastructure choices you have no power to change so it does not have a significant impact on your choices of how to use energy. This is why it is a failure as I have seen no documented proof that it has had a significant impact on our energy use or GHG emissions.
Eg is I own a property currently heated with gas and have looked into a heat pump but the power to the building would require a full service upgrade to make the change. Even with the tax there is no way to make the conversion so we just pay.
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u/Simsmommy1 18h ago
It’s not supposed to BE a revenue generating tax….if it was we wouldn’t be getting our rebates. The point of the carbon tax was to push corporations towards more carbon neutral options while being as friendly towards consumers as possible by giving us the rebates to offset what we pay, and we get that. The people with basic math skills can work out that we get returned to us equal or more than what we pay, unless you consume massive quantities of energy most people do get back more. People complain that it raises costs of consumer products but fail to realize that its removal will do jack shit to the cost of anything, whatever small amount it does raise won’t come off the cost of anything, corporations will use it to pad their bottom line because that is who benefits most from the removal of this tax and who Pollivere is the most beholden to, corporations not citizens…oh and we will lose our rebates, be subjected to tariffs….this whole idea is asinine, I cannot believe people are being this gullible to think a carbon tax is this large thing driving up the price. It’s not and when it’s gone and shit doesn’t get cheaper….all we will be left with is a shit Prime Minister and a ton of right wing crazies pushing through culture war bullshit.
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u/SympathyOver1244 3d ago
A simple look at the Industrial Producer Price Index (IPPI), Energy and petroleum products have witnessed a disinflation of about 8% since July 2024...
think IPPI needs to accommodate renewable energy category in its index as a means of highlighting the green economy...
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u/Constant-Lake8006 3d ago
So now that an election is close the media is laying the ground work for PP NOT axing the tax?
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 2d ago
Canadians are dimwits. They will axe the tax and replace it with something worse, without rebates, because we need some carbon control measures for international trade agreements.
Back when the PCs introduced the GST, it was a claimed replacement for the Federal Excise Tax but in fact it taxed many items never before taxed.
For vehicles, the carbon tax is clearly not working, because the levy ( it's not actually a tax), assumes rational consumer behaviour. Since introduction of carbon pricing, sales of heavy thirsty vehicles have only gone up.
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u/mikehatesthis 1d ago
Since introduction of carbon pricing, sales of heavy thirsty vehicles have only gone up.
I know a big chunk of the reason is tax loopholes over trucks in the states (and here I believe too?) so car manufacturers focus on making them primarily, but it's really funny how some keep buying dumbass massive trucks and SUVs with shit kilometrage and live angry they pay more for fuel.
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u/literalsupport 2d ago
I’d send this to someone I know who hates the carbon tax but I know he’d just call it ‘liberal propaganda’
We are all like crabs in a barrel.
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u/ScottIBM 3d ago
Provinces should be making their own tax rules, but keep misleading their citizens in a quest for more profits at any cost. More at 11
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u/SympathyOver1244 3d ago edited 3d ago
Climate change is officially a National Security issue...
if one gives a look at Alberta, Smith has singlehandedly undermined potential cost savings & energy security for certain interest groups...
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u/Vanshrek99 2d ago
Her anti renewable policy wiped 40 Billion of investment into Canada. Plus they actually pay taxes as they are not treat special. I bet southern Alberta would love to have municipal taxes paid
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u/DominusNoxx 3d ago
Since certain provinces seem to be all about catering to the petrosexuals, the less power they've got the better.
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u/StetsonTuba8 ✔ I voted! 2d ago
I've never understood what the point of being a united country is if everyone wants the provinces to decide things on their own
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u/ceciliabee 3d ago
I envy whatever part of you makes life so simple and straightforward. It must be nice to be so... let's say, clever.
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u/Mhfd86 3d ago
Remember this was originally a CPC idea, like the GST holiday.
Even the scumbag Elon said Carbon Tax is the way to go.
You want to trade with European countries, well gotta have Carbon Tax.