Woman who accused Diddy and Jay-Z of raping her can remain anonymous for now, judge rules
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/woman-accused-diddy-jay-raping-remain-anonymous-now/story?id=117133210179
u/FitLaw4 1d ago
Jay-z gotta be the ugliest mother fucker on this planet
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u/RedCheese1 1d ago
Cam ron always said that he looks like Joe Camel 🐪
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u/Joe579GoFkUrselfMins 10h ago
Yeah, and I always lose my shit over this, but my favorite "opening" of someone saying that man's name will always be Bill O'Reilly, auto parts/fox news assshole: https://youtu.be/zPjUsu2-QMQ?si=MW1-9jEVgRRBJZW9
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u/miseryatbest 12h ago
He's definitely in the top 5, and his fake ass studio gangster rap sucks dick.
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u/dwn2earth83 1d ago edited 23h ago
William Defoe is walking around out here looking like they based The Green Goblin off his literal face, but Jay-Z is the ugliest muhfucka you’ve ever seen? For real?
Edit: I find it quite funny I’m being downvoted. I know the reason why. But it’s still funny. Reddit: always classy.
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u/yohosse 1d ago
He still got Beyonce and you could never.
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u/dandr01d 1d ago
Jay Z was 28 and she was 16 when they met. He preyed on her
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u/yohosse 1d ago
You saw that most recent headline with the photo and went with it. She said herself years ago she was 18-19 when they met and started dating.
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u/dandr01d 1d ago edited 1d ago
She would say that. Also you think 30 and 18 is ok? Nasty
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u/CondeNast_yReddit 1d ago
At what point does a woman become an adult and made accountable for her actions? At what age is it ok for an 18 year old to date? What's an appropriate age gap? Her body, your choice it seems
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u/yohosse 1d ago
At the time Beyonce was in destiny's child and Jay was still just a rapper, not president of Def Jam or finding talent. If that was the scenario then yeah I couldn't argue against that.
As far as the age difference goes I mean 18 is kinda okay but she could have said no and flew away...but I would never go for any woman younger then 24.
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u/dwn2earth83 1d ago
You’re almost right— it was her 21st birthday when they officially became a couple. He even said it on his last album “I told you ‘Don’t embarrass me.’ instead of ‘Be mine.’ It was your 21st birthday— you matured faster than me, I wasn’t ready. So I apologize…”. So yeah they did meet when she was about 18-19. But didn’t immediately become a couple.
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u/notyourvader 1d ago
"Carter’s lawyer’s relentless filing of combative motions containing inflammatory language and ad hominem attacks is inappropriate, a waste of judicial resources, and a tactic unlikely to benefit his client. The Court will not fast-track the judicial process merely because counsel demands it."
The alleged victim was 13 years old when it happened. Imagine being as tone-deaf as this, personally attacking someone with such trauma. Good on the judge for calling them out.
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u/QuixoticBard 1d ago
people who do that should be held in contempt and sentenced .I don't care who they are.
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u/fireeight 1d ago edited 1d ago
How nice. If only victims of abuse didn't have to fear public or physical retribution by trying to ask for justice. Imagine what that would be like.
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u/ikonoklastic 1d ago
Sometimes it also exposes more victims, especially for crimes like rape, which are often repeat offenders. Like Bill Cosby, Weinstein, etc.
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u/40WAPSun 23h ago
Not seeing anything on that page about their lives being destroyed
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u/Joe579GoFkUrselfMins 10h ago
Oh, Jesus Christ, go back to /r/WitchesVsPatriachy and leave the adults alone, please
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u/ikonoklastic 23h ago
It's been by and large shown to be a myth, and pretending otherwise is enabling rapists. You don't want to read the rest of what I said because it relates to how things work in the real world, not just reddit.
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u/shepdc1 22h ago
The judge said she can be revealed but her attorney has to respond
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u/ikonoklastic 22h ago
Big ugh. She's just gonna get harassed more then and it's going to dissuade anyone else who was molested at a p Diddy party.
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u/csgymgirl 1d ago
I don’t doubt that false accusations ruin lives, but time and time again we’ve seen true accusations not ruin lives at all.
I think an idea behind have accused be public is if another victim sees it and recognises then they can come forward too.
We also saw in the recent Gisele Pelicot case that she chose for her identity to be made public so that her rapists would have to go public as well and she could pass the shame onto them.
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u/csgymgirl 23h ago
The three men were declared innocent in 2007 and went on to do well in their careers and uni.
Meanwhile, there are rapists like Ronaldo and Greenwood who are doing very well right now.
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u/csgymgirl 22h ago
oh yeah there’s definitely a lot of racism that affects the outcome of these things. probably has a factor in why my white rapists are doing very well at the moment.
although I’m not sure you meant to reply to me because i said “went on to do well” specifically about three men who did go on to do well.
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u/H8des707 22h ago
But if it were you…lol you’re hiding a man you don’t even know you’re going on Details from the internet lol you’re part of the problem
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u/JimiForPresident 21h ago
The plaintiff hasn’t requested justice. They still haven’t filed criminal charges, which one might expect from victims of violence. They have only sued for money.
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u/fireeight 21h ago
Criminal suits for sexual crimes - ESPECIALLY suits against celebrities - have a very low clearance rate. So do you pursue prison and almost definitely lose, or go for a civil charge?
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u/SaltMiner_ 1d ago
Idol worship can get real crazy. No doubt there are people out there who would, at the very least, harass her and her family. It's crazy that people can act like that over people they don't know, will never know, and just who don't care about them at all even if they did know them.
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u/TheHobbyist_ 23h ago
This seems right she should be able to remain anonymous.
However, I'd like to point out this womans story really doesn't add up. It seems like she is lying to me.
Her father said he doesn't remember picking her up that night or her ever mentioning these events.
The other band she mentioned hanging with wasn't in New York
This lawyer has filed over 20 lawsuits against Diddy
The lawyer is "continuing to vet" the allegations after they've filed the suit
I mean, I think both Diddy and possibly Jayz have done some terrible shit but I didn't buy her story.
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u/phrozen_waffles 1d ago
I think both sides should be private. There are situations where false sexual assault accusations are retaliatory.
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u/leftnotracks 1d ago
It’s absurd a judge needs to rule on something like this, rather than it being the default.
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u/QuixoticBard 1d ago
fuck that. She can stay anonymous forever. anyone who tries to out her should be held accountable publicly, then charged.
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u/Dankkring 1d ago
You’d think he would already know her identity if he raped her. Unless he’s raped multiple 13 year olds to the point where he doesn’t remember them all. How many kids has this guy raped???
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u/archimedesrex 1d ago
I've got no love for Jay-Z but this is a "When did you stop beating your wife?" type line of reasoning. Perhaps the simple answer is he doesn't know her identity because he didn't rape her? Perhaps he did. But that's a wild line of reasoning.
"We're not going to tell you who you're accused of killing. You'd think you'd already know who you killed. Unless this was just one of many! And he's killed so many he can't even remember his victims. Just how many people has this guy killed?"
That's witch hunt mentality.
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u/One_Psychology_ 1d ago
Why doesn’t the US just have anonymity for rape victims like pretty much everywhere else does?
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u/NotRadTrad05 1d ago
Because the accused is innocent until proven guilty and their rights matter too.
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u/SnooMarzipans4947 23h ago
I'm confused, I thought we already knew who she was? Is this. New victim?
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u/shepdc1 22h ago
No one including Jay knows who she is
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u/Positive_Round_5142 17h ago
He knows who she is. He just wants the public to know who she is so every person on the internet can investigate and shame her if had a troubled past
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u/shepdc1 14h ago
the court documents show he does not know who she is. even the judge has acknowledged that like do you pple read???
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u/CheezeLoueez08 12h ago
You don’t think jay z would lie about not knowing her? I mean, come on. Why would he admit it?
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u/shepdc1 12h ago
the judge acknowledged he does not know who she is. can yall not read
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u/Positive_Round_5142 14h ago
Trust me he knows who she is. Just like how he lied about having a friendship with Diddy despite Diddy always being invited to Roc Nation brunches and them toasting each other
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u/KeepAwaySynonym 1d ago
Why would the accuser be incarcerated with multiple system / policy / procedure failures that allowed them to kill themselves?
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u/MoonlitStar 1d ago
Don't people who are victims and alleged victims of sexual abuse and rape get automatic anonymity in the US? I'm in the UK and the right to be anonymous regards the public/media/social media of victims and alleged victims is the default, automatic and lasts for life. Since this person was only a 13 year old CHILD at the time of the alleged rape it is wild to me that her having her name released to the public at large and all the media can potentially be a thing. Victims in the UK can choose to lift their own anonymity but that is a different thing.