r/lastweektonight • u/Walter_Bishop_PhD Bugler • Jun 03 '24
Episode Discussion [Last Week Tonight with John Oliver] S11E13 - June 2, 2024 - Episode Discussion Thread
Official Clips
- To be added
Frequently Asked Questions
Why can't I view the YouTube links/why do the YouTube links appear to be removed?
- They are sadly region restricted in many countries - you can see which countries are blocked using this website.
Why isn't LWT on HBO GO/HBO NOW/HBO MAX right after it airs?
- HBO says that it takes a few hours for Last Week Tonight episodes to reach HBO GO or Now due to delays caused by the show's editing process. This appears to be happening less, nowadays.
Is there a way to suggest a topic for the show?
- They don't take suggestions for show topics.
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u/Wild_Army1776 Jun 03 '24
Waiters, waiters, biscuits, biscuits.
Also, I cannot unsee Bob the Builder now.
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u/karmadogma Jun 04 '24
I loved Johnās little chuckle delivering the line āThere were two dump trucks on that building site and the biggest was in his overallsā
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u/Name213whatever Jun 04 '24
I need to know more about that woman's prom night what the hell
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u/MtotheizzA Jun 04 '24
Kennedy used to be on MTV if anyone remembers her. Also she's the one John Rzeznick from the GooGoo Dolls wrote "name" about
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u/tributtal Jun 05 '24
Holy shit had no idea this is the same Kennedy of MTV fame. Would not have pegged her as a conservative.
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u/jetloflin Jun 05 '24
Wasnāt that her whole schtick on mtv? I saw someone else describe it as āIām not like other girls because Iām alternative and conservativeā. I donāt actually remember her as a VJ, but I remember the Murphy Brown storyline with the character based on her joining the team.
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u/tributtal Jun 05 '24
I'm sure you're right. I don't really remember anything about her except her being the face of MTV for a while so she was everywhere.
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u/DrSuii Jun 03 '24
Indian here. 'Approved rating' is just IT Cell folks who live on cumbs for each like/comment/share. The propaganda network is so fucking deep even Oliver can be fooled.
Also, the food distribution he was praised for (Called the PDS) started in 1970s not under Modi.
The elections are rigged and in the next 5-10 years the whole world will come understand how democracy in India have actually just ended
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u/epabafree Jun 03 '24
and by rigged elections it means that the entire election commission is allowing a fake narrative, arresting oppositions, not letting oppositions participate, having shit voting booths which will discourage new voters, freeze accounts of opposition so they cannot preach
just the tip of the iceberg uwu
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u/DrSuii Jun 03 '24
Not just 'shit' voting booths. Booths being captured by the party and Muslim citizens being beaten by the police for casting votes (Eg in Sambhal District, UP)
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u/legobatman03 Jun 04 '24
Not to mention! Since we haven't had a population census under Modi yet, he is actively breaking the PDS by not allowing a lot of people in need and people who would otherwise be eligible for benefit from the PDS anything bc they're technically not registered.
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u/wafflesareforever Jun 04 '24
Do people like this even understand how obvious it is that they're paid to comment on social media
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u/wafflesareforever Jun 04 '24
Are you happy with a country that doesn't allow a free press?
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u/wafflesareforever Jun 04 '24
Are you happy with a country that actively shuts down domestic media that opposes the ruling regime? And then your defense is that foreign media is still able to be critical?
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u/RandomFactUser Jun 04 '24
Reddit is not a leftist echo chamber, its a echo chamber for whatever you want it to be
Iām not happy by that line because two out of three of those points are incorrect
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u/DEvilAnimeGuy Jun 03 '24
The Documentary Film on Gujrat Riot was banned now this. With broadcasting bill, Govt is now planning to ban independent journalists from Social Media as well. We will become worse than china and Pakistan soon. At least in china they have good education, infrastructure and technology. This govt so against china on the public view but data shows that our dependency on china have increased.Ā
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u/masklinn Jun 03 '24
The NBC News clip from the intro is https://youtu.be/dva3Mv8HueI?t=1210 if you want the entire thing.
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u/dazncnfzd Jun 04 '24
Thanks for that but do you have a clip of this from Last Week Tonight with John Oliver?
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u/kalajadugar Jun 03 '24
Is it normal for the video to be banned in USA?
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u/alex5775 Jun 04 '24
Yeah,Ā this season hasn't had YouTube episodes releasing in the US until Thursday.Ā They upload Monday and some countries get access then.
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u/masklinn Jun 05 '24
From what I understand, countries without an exclusive HBO licensee get the full episode immediately. Countries with an episode licensee (or people who are near enough one that youtubeās shitty geolocation thinks they are) only get the main segment, on thursday.
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Jun 04 '24 edited Jun 04 '24
There are a lot of valid criticisms of Modi. Tons. But as usual, there's a lot western magnifying lens being applied here without knowing the true context of what happened.
Modi didn't destroy a Mosque just for the sake of doing so. Ayodhya is one of the most holy places of all for Hindus. Back when the Moguls invaded India, they pillaged, ransacked, raped women and destroyed temples throughout the region. Purposefully, on every single holy site that was incredibly important to Hindus, they purposefully tore down the temple and then built a mosque on top of it. It's not isolated to one incident. Many temples are like this and they deserve to be reclaimed as what they once were. The Babri Masjid (Babar's mosque) built in Ayodha wasn't even an important mosque for Muslims, It's mostly a mausoleum for Babar, one of THE worst tyrannical and cruel rulers to ever live. Read up on the history on what the Moguls did when they came to what is now known as India (they were separate kingdoms back then). As a parallel example, imagine if in Jerusalem. the holy temples were all destroyed a couple of centuries ago and replaced with Buddhist temples (it's just an example). Do you think once Israel was formed, they would have let it remain that way? (Nope).
Suffice to say, this is a very complex issue and just auto-sympathizing with Muslims in India on this across the board is myopic and quite frankly, insulting coming from a western point of view, particularly from a British person (who to be fair has acknowledged himself he's not the best to be talking about this) considering what they did to India and how they left it (read up on Partition if you want to know more).
Muslims in India continually harass and exploit Hindus and the majority has had enough in many ways. I don't like the authoritarianism that's at display and I don't like Modi - but people need to actually understand where Hindus are coming from. For example during Partition, do you know what many Muslims did? The whole idea was Hindus living in what would be Pakistan would be moved to India and Muslims living in what would be India moved to Pakistan. The arrangement was essentially a trading of properties in either regions between families, kind of like a trade concept. Many Muslims left some family members in India during this time. So when Hindus from Pakistan arrived at the property, they were told it was that Muslim family's still and the Hindus were on their own. Do you know to this day there are tens of thousands of Hindus living as refugees in their own country because of this? My father's family was like this - so I have pretty close knowledge of what happened to them. At that time, Nehru did absolutely nothing to fix this wrong, as he was worried about maintaining the Muslim vote for himself.
I'm not blaming all Muslims. I'm blaming the ones who are using their religion as a wedge factor, exploiting the system as much as possible. For all the talk of being secular, Gandhi and Nehru fucked up and allowed Muslims to have their own laws. That doesn't work for a nation - a Muslim husband in India, until Modi came into power, could divorce their wife simply by saying "Talak, talak, talak" - even over text message and the wife would be left with nothing - no possessions or material wealth of any kind. Modi put a stop to all of this. Single law for all Indians - regardless of religion.
A lot of this is so much more complex than western media likes to show. As I said before though, I am not a fan of Modi - I detest his methods of achieving things, I don't agree with a lot of his policies and I completely dislike the right-wing authoritarian swing the country has taken. But I am also able to understand the real issues that Hindus face as a majority in their own country. Try and see it from their side - as Muslims openly want to divide up India from within - constantly trying to referendum for a separate nation and/or implementing Sharia law, etc.
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u/TheGoddamnSpiderman Jun 04 '24
As a parallel example, imagine if in Jerusalem. the holy temples were all destroyed a couple of centuries ago and replaced with Buddhist temples (it's just an example). Do you think once Israel was formed, they would have let it remain that way? (Nope).
I don't know enough about Indian history to speak to your larger point, but I don't think this is a very good example
It's not Buddhist, but Al-Aqsa mosque is literally built in the middle of the remains of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the holiest site in Judaism (where the temple at the center of Judaism stood before the Romans destroyed it, leaving behind just one of the outer walls). Far from being destroyed, Jews aren't even allowed inside
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Jun 04 '24 edited Jun 04 '24
Fair enough, I shouldn't have used Buddhist. I was just trying to avoid using a mosque as another example, trying to find a parallel, that's all. Unsure why I got downvoted for my post though, I guess Reddit be Reddit.
Maybe a better example could be if say, the Germans destroyed the Notre Dame when it was invaded and replaced it with something else entirely just to make a point, France wouldn't have left it alone when they reclaimed their country. I'm just not able to find a proper parallel because there's genuinely a huge swath of the western world that truly doesn't realize what India has been through. The region when through so much suffering - centuries of colonial rule from the Mughals and then the British - with millions dying in the process. Cultures being destroyed, etc. As mentioned before - I don't agree with Modi's ways at all - but I understand the Hindu majority's frustration. They have been made to feel like second-class citizens in many circumstances in their own country. The history is incredibly complex and not so simple like Western media likes to portray what's happening in India.
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Jun 04 '24 edited Jun 04 '24
"Reddit is a leftist echo chamber."
This is not really true - I've been here since 2006. I'm not being partisan in my comments above - just trying to provide some perspective on what's going on. And yes, I know Modi is going to win. I don't want India turning into a right wing authoritarian country though. The very concept of being a Hindu is acceptance of others and their viewpoints. Everyone I know across the board in India (friends, family, etc.) all openly celebrate occasions from other religions and cultures. It wasn't an insular society until more recently and I really dislike what it's turning into. There's no point in call oneself the world's largest democracy if it doesn't act like one. Ultimately we need more center-left thinking, not right wing thinking, for this world to get better.
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Jun 04 '24 edited Jun 04 '24
Let's not be dishonest here - BJP used to be centre-left. It has since migrated much more to the right. It's nowhere near as bad as MAGA level bad but it's definitely a lot further right than it used to be.
There used to be many pro Donald Trump subreddits on here (remember The_Donald)? It's not Reddit's fault that they were so terrible that they all got banned. It wasn't because of their political ideologies, it was because of the amount of vitriol, hatred and TOS breaking that happened. Right wing groups can't control themselves without turning into a massive hate fest. I'm not saying all left groups are angels by the way, but historically it's far worse on the right than the left for this behavior.
Also why would there be any pro-Trump posts on r/politics ? Many people hate that he's become the face of the conservative movement in the US when in reality there are much more reasonable right wing figures who they could have hitched their wagon to. There isn't anything really positive to say about Trump these days. Mired by scandals, indictments, etc. What is there to really pro-Trump at this point in time aside from spreading hatred? I'm being serious. The problem is that anything pro-Trump de-evolves into absolutes and vitriol, not reasonable conversation.
There's pro-Modi posts in r/India (i.e. https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/11po4qb/unpopular_opinion_modi_ji_is_the_visionary_leader/ ). I will agree they're not nearly as many as the negative ones, but I find that in almost every subreddit that deals with politics. r/canada is full of Trudeau bashing, not that many posts about the good he has done. It's just how it is - negative voices tend to be the loudest and people generally don't tend to post a lot of positive things these days. Most of reddit (at least when it comes to politics, economics and society) tends to be negative in nature.
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u/Baby-Lee Jun 04 '24
Kind of wild to see a journalist so disrespectful of the sanctity of electoral processes and the rule of law, I hope he doesn't incite an insurrection somewhere.
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u/lonelygagger Jun 03 '24
Great, now I feel like Cheddar Bay Biscuits