r/indonesia Ordinary people Nov 02 '16

Special Thread [Mega Thread] Demo FPI 4 November

EDIT 4/11 Evening: Police Spokeperson just speaks on Metro TV about the escalation of the demonstration after the meeting between JK and representatives of the groups. Police is trying to mitigate the situation and dispersing the rowdy crowd (Most of the demonstrators have gone home, what's left are a bunch of hardliners). There have been sporadic reports of lootings and sweeping in parts of Jakarta. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM AFFECTED AREA. PAY ATTENTION TO NEWS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. STAY SAFE.

There's a gathering of rowdy crowd in Penjaringan, Jakarta Utara. Riot police has been deployed in the area.

Unknown amount of demonstrators moved to the DPR. It seems like they are gathering there.

Video of minimarket looting courtesy of /u/FMecha

Video of vandalism and possible sweeping in Jakarta and an overhead view of the incident courtesy of /u/raylucker

THE INCIDENT CAUGHT THE WORLD'S EYES courtesy BBC News

(END OF EVENING UPDATE)

There seems to be a lot of concern regarding the upcoming 4 November demo. There are a lot of threads regarding 4th november popping up near daily in this subreddit. So, best if we merge them all into one mega thread until the 4th november day has passed. Discuss away! Post essential information, share tips on what to do if one stuck in demo pathway, essential tips on how to survive should anything bad happened, anything that could ease up your worry, counsel those who showed up in this thread worried! We are a community after all.

I will keep this thread updated with key info should a komodo redditor share one. In the mean time, here are past threads regarding the 4th November demo.

Jakarta's 4 Nov Protest - Is it that bad?

So they say there's gonna be a big protest on the 4th of November.

About the 4 November protest plan, again.

I'm sorry. I know it's the third time already. More questions about the 4th of November thing.

PBNU Larang Penggunaan Atribut NU Saat Demo Ahok 4 November Nanti

/u/OrdoXenos provides several updates: SBY further fans the flame of Demo 4 November by insisting Ahok should be punished or else and Today while on a visit to Rawa Belong, Ahok and his entourages came under attack by demonstrators.

What kind of political maneuvering will happen tomorrow November the third? Will SBY unleash his wrath again? Will Jokowi gather more support from the other side? Stay tune on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z.

Per the usual MO when Mega thread is created, any other threads regarding the topic will be removed.

Edit 4/11: less than a hour before the start of the protest. Best of luck to many Jakarta redditors here. Let's pray nothing malicious comes from this.

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u/OrdoXenos Peace through strength Nov 02 '16

So, tension got a little higher this evening.

Ahok is attacked when he is visiting Rawa Belong, and he is forced to flee using Mikrolet M24 to the police station.

If you are Binusian, you would know that Rawa Belong is very close to Binus, and M24 is a mikrolet that we widely known.

Another strange thing? Those people already prepared a curse word in a banner for Ahok, implying that these people are prepared for Ahok's arrival.

Even stranger thing? Anies visit the same place (or at least near to it) this morning. For some reason media did not say where is the Pasar Kembang, but based on the photos I am quite sure that the market that Anies visited is Pasar Kembang in Rawa Belong.

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u/FantasyBorderline Nov 02 '16 edited Nov 02 '16

And I see people (my office mates at least) assuming they're not even from Rawa Belong.

And that they're likely to have been paid by Sandiaga Uno or SBY.

Damn, it reminds me of the Democrats deliberately inciting violence in Trump rallies.

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u/Korelie23 ASEAN Nov 02 '16 edited Nov 02 '16

SBY's party is also called Democrats, what the hell is with democrats making false flag lately.

Edit: Party name just Democrats not Nasdem

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '16

National Democrat

that's brewok's party right ?

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u/KnightModern "Indonesia negara musyawarah, bukan demokrasi" Nov 02 '16
  1. i's only called democrat

  2. stop taking /r/all as 100% truthful source

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u/FantasyBorderline Nov 02 '16

The Democrats inciting violence part? I heard it first from Youtubers.

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u/KnightModern "Indonesia negara musyawarah, bukan demokrasi" Nov 02 '16

I heard it first from Youtubers.

there's your problem

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u/FantasyBorderline Nov 02 '16

I mean the American Democrat party. The first source was actually something called Project Veritas if I remember correctly

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u/KnightModern "Indonesia negara musyawarah, bukan demokrasi" Nov 02 '16 edited Nov 02 '16

Project Veritas

......... hahahaha

wait, you serious?, let me laugh harder

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......

seriously, buddy, you take project veritas seriously?

buddy, if you miss the news, O'Keefe has history with false documentary that's actually misleading and/or incomplete (famous for bullshit ACORN 'documentary'), he doesn't want to provide raw footage of project veritas because 'it might tell different story' (i.e he's bullshitting you), and he's even rejected from fox news (of all place) because they know he tells bullshit in project veritas and his past record

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u/FantasyBorderline Nov 03 '16

ACORN may be bullshit, but I'm not sure about this one.

I mean, if their video interviewing some people from the Democratic party is bullshit, why did the interviewees end up resigning or being fired from the party?

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u/KnightModern "Indonesia negara musyawarah, bukan demokrasi" Nov 03 '16

but I'm not sure about this one.

he doesn't release raw footage, fearing his bullshit will be known again

why did the interviewees end up resigning or being fired from the party?

and ACORN was disbanded, despite false proof and they didn't do any shit

let me quote snope about his video

.... comprising a constellation of allegations and assertions that is virtually impossible to fact check without complete clips of the involved conversations. Nearly all the videos used stitched-together, out-of-context remarks with no indication of what occurred or what was discussed just before and after the included portions.

if he tells the truth, he would dare to releasing raw footage, and yet here we are...

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '16

map for more context

is this the flower market btw ?

you can even see jalan ayub