r/indonesia Ordinary people Nov 02 '16

Special Thread [Mega Thread] Demo FPI 4 November

EDIT 4/11 Evening: Police Spokeperson just speaks on Metro TV about the escalation of the demonstration after the meeting between JK and representatives of the groups. Police is trying to mitigate the situation and dispersing the rowdy crowd (Most of the demonstrators have gone home, what's left are a bunch of hardliners). There have been sporadic reports of lootings and sweeping in parts of Jakarta. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM AFFECTED AREA. PAY ATTENTION TO NEWS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. STAY SAFE.

There's a gathering of rowdy crowd in Penjaringan, Jakarta Utara. Riot police has been deployed in the area.

Unknown amount of demonstrators moved to the DPR. It seems like they are gathering there.

Video of minimarket looting courtesy of /u/FMecha

Video of vandalism and possible sweeping in Jakarta and an overhead view of the incident courtesy of /u/raylucker

THE INCIDENT CAUGHT THE WORLD'S EYES courtesy BBC News

(END OF EVENING UPDATE)

There seems to be a lot of concern regarding the upcoming 4 November demo. There are a lot of threads regarding 4th november popping up near daily in this subreddit. So, best if we merge them all into one mega thread until the 4th november day has passed. Discuss away! Post essential information, share tips on what to do if one stuck in demo pathway, essential tips on how to survive should anything bad happened, anything that could ease up your worry, counsel those who showed up in this thread worried! We are a community after all.

I will keep this thread updated with key info should a komodo redditor share one. In the mean time, here are past threads regarding the 4th November demo.

Jakarta's 4 Nov Protest - Is it that bad?

So they say there's gonna be a big protest on the 4th of November.

About the 4 November protest plan, again.

I'm sorry. I know it's the third time already. More questions about the 4th of November thing.

PBNU Larang Penggunaan Atribut NU Saat Demo Ahok 4 November Nanti

/u/OrdoXenos provides several updates: SBY further fans the flame of Demo 4 November by insisting Ahok should be punished or else and Today while on a visit to Rawa Belong, Ahok and his entourages came under attack by demonstrators.

What kind of political maneuvering will happen tomorrow November the third? Will SBY unleash his wrath again? Will Jokowi gather more support from the other side? Stay tune on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z.

Per the usual MO when Mega thread is created, any other threads regarding the topic will be removed.

Edit 4/11: less than a hour before the start of the protest. Best of luck to many Jakarta redditors here. Let's pray nothing malicious comes from this.

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u/OrdoXenos Peace through strength Nov 02 '16

SBY kept insisting that Ahok should be punished even to the point of saying that the nation will burn, despite he himself try to say that he should not be punished for losing TPF Munir's documents.

Frankly speaking, SBY could be charged with obstruction of justice, even more because he is a president. Scandals like this could bring down US president, but as always, the guilty people in Indonesia will not get their due punishment.

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u/qeqe1213 Nov 02 '16

It's his son being candidate. If his son didn't enter, i 100% sure he won't bothered with it.

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u/Korelie23 ASEAN Nov 02 '16

Scandals like this could bring down US president

Tell that to HRC.

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u/meliakh Nov 02 '16

Have you heard of Nixon?

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u/FantasyBorderline Nov 02 '16

I don't think Nixon had the support of the American MSM like Hillary Clinton enjoys right now.

Seriously, they try to downplay, or denounce, the FBI's probe on her E-mails, as 'sexist woman-beating'. No joke.

Jack Comey or whoever the head of the FBI is now, had to reopen the probe after getting a slew of resignation letters and being berated by his closest allies.

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u/KnightModern "Indonesia negara musyawarah, bukan demokrasi" Nov 02 '16 edited Nov 03 '16

the FBI's probe on her E-mails,

which is currently still unfounded guess, previous e-mail case has been dealt before (especially if they want to indict hillary regardless, we have bush on waiting list, and probably other politicians)

and before you said it's for the truth, Comey allegedly tried not to announce russian ties with donald campaign (whether donald directly get help from russia or just try to help donald without donald knowledge), because of near election, that's tradition

people expect same treatment for hillary, especially since donald case is still pretty much like new hillary email case, still not much has been proven