r/indonesia • u/trikora • 22h ago
Current Affair Indonesia sampai saat ini masih melabeli HTS, yang sekarang memimpin suriah, sebagai teroris
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u/YukkuriOniisan Veritatem dicere officium est... si forte sciam 21h ago
In case people forgot:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/12/1158126
Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), an armed group designated as a terrorist organization by the UN Security Council, has emerged as the dominant force in Syria, following the fall of the Bashar al-Assad regime.
https://main.un.org/securitycouncil/en/content/un-sc-consolidated-list
QDe.137 Name: AL-NUSRAH FRONT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE LEVANT
Name (original script): جبهة النصرة لأهل الشام A.k.a.: a) Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) (هيئة تحرير الشام (original script); Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham; Hay’et Tahrir al-Sham; Hayat Tahrir al-Sham; Assembly for the Liberation of Syria; Assembly for the Liberation of the Levant; Liberation of al-Sham Commission; Liberation of the Levant Organisation Tahrir al-Sham; Tahrir al-Sham Hay’at) b) جبهة النصرة (the Victory Front; Jabhat al-Nusrah; Jabhet al-Nusra; Al-Nusrah Front; Al-Nusra Front) c) جبهة فتح الشام (Jabhat Fath al Sham; Jabhat Fath al-Sham; Jabhat Fatah al-Sham; Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham; Fatah al-Sham Front; Fateh al-Sham Front) d) Conquest of the Levant Front e) The Front for the Liberation of al Sham f) Front for the Conquest of Syria/the Levant g) Front for the Liberation of the Levant h) Front for the Conquest of Syria i) شبكة أنصار المجاهدين (Ansar al-Mujahideen Network - sub-unit name) j) مجاهدو الشام في ساحات الجهاد (Levantine Mujahideen on the Battlefields of Jihad - sub-unit name)
F.k.a.: na
Address: a) Syrian Arab Republic (Operates in) b) Iraq (Support network)
Listed on: 14 May 2014 ( amended on 7 Jun. 2017, 5 Jun. 2018, 15 Nov. 2021 )
Other information: Associated with Al-Qaida (QDe.004). Brought Syrian and foreign Al-Qaida in Iraq (QDe.115) and Asbat al-Ansar (QDe.007) fighters, along with other foreign Al-Qaida operatives, to join local elements in Syrian Arab Republic to carry out terrorist and guerrilla operations there. Previously associated with the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), listed as Al-Qaida in Iraq (QDe.115), and its leader Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim Ali al-Badri al-Samarrai (QDi.299) but separated from that group in 2013. In Jul. 2016, Abu Mohammed Al-Jawlani (QDi.317), the leader of Al-Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant, announced the group had changed its name to Jabhat Fath al-Sham and was no longer affiliated with any external entity. Despite the announcement and attempts to distinguish itself from Al-Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant, the group remains aligned with Al-Qaida and continues to carry out terrorist operations under this new name. In January 2017, Al-Nusrah Front created Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) as a vehicle to advance its position in the Syrian insurgency and further its own goals as Al-Qaida’s affiliate in Syria. Previously listed between 30 May 2013 and 13 May 2014 as an aka of Al-Qaida in Iraq (QDe.115). Review pursuant to Security Council resolution 2368 (2017) was concluded on 15 November 2021. INTERPOL-UN Security Council Special Notice web link:https://www.interpol.int/en/How-we-work/Notices/View-UN-Notices-Individuals click here
So...... Indonesia is just parroting UN Terrorist List at this point.
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u/alezcoed Kementerian Cita Rasa Ditjen Indomie 22h ago
Who the fuck is Hubungan Tanpa Status? Why did he become a terrorist?
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u/mifadhil Indomie 20h ago
ya karena kelamaan digantungin tanpa status wkwkwk
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u/Alternative-Act-6578 Penyuka Dommy Mommy dan Oneechan/Oneesan 5h ago
Sampai akhirnya digantung tanpa status berubah menjadi digantung ke leher sendiri
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u/Mare_Sundaica War (Crimes) and Geopolitics Enjoyer 17h ago edited 17h ago
The guy (HTS leader) was fighting for Al-Qaeda before in Iraq. His group in the past (Al-Nusra Front) also did some nasty crime before he realised 'Fuck, we won't have Islamic State if what we do is making enemies around us'. So now he is pretty much trying to be pragmatic and do more nation building work.
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u/Sushi_is_Built Assitant Manager Dukun Santet Ringan cabang Depok 21h ago
Status kedubes suriah di Indonesia gimana yak? udah ganti bendera dan udah menjawab kepemimpinan Al-Shara karena mereka yang mempunyai damaskus sekarang
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u/adnanssz 20h ago
udah ganti, ada yang bilang bendera suriah yang hijau emang bendera asli suriah pas merdeka. abis itu diganti oleh ayah bashar al ashad.
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u/GoodLongjumping3678 20h ago
Status teroris hilang karena udah jadi legitimate government.
Sama seperti pejuang Indonesia yang dulu dicap teroris oleh Pemerintah Belanda, sekarang jadi legitimate Government.
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u/didunianyata gw beneran didunianyata 22h ago
Jadi tujuan post ini apa? Mo anggap mereka bukan terrorist karena mrk memimpin Suriah sekarang?
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u/Ill-Party8305 21h ago
Kedubes suriah di indonesia secara de jure merupakan perwakilan pemerintahan HTS di indonesia.
So do you think indonesia is hosting terorrism platform here?
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u/Time_Fracture Hakari Hanazono enjoyer 21h ago
Bukannya kedubes Suriah masih pake bendera lama? Atau udah ganti?
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u/didunianyata gw beneran didunianyata 19h ago
Kalau perlu tinggal dipanggil / diusir. Justru bagus jelas siapa yg mesti di telp. Gitu saja kok repot.
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u/trikora 22h ago
Jadi seperti yang kita tahu, pemerintahan Assad di suriah tumbang di awal desember kemarin. Dan kepemimpinannya diisi oleh koalisi pejuang oposisi, yang salah satu sekaligus menjadi pemimpinnya adalah HTS
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u/Old-Difference7563 21h ago
bro went from a jihadist to a moderate jihadist
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u/Kitchen_Meal_4828 21h ago edited 21h ago
Jihad Lite, The new Meta, if you can't bomb the shi out of the infidels why not fuk the shi out of them the legal or the "moderate" way...yum yum...
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u/Cynrile 21h ago
ini bukanny yg ke afliasi ama felix siauw yah? koreksi klo salah yah
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u/Time_Fracture Hakari Hanazono enjoyer 21h ago
Felix Siauw ini seinget gue HTI bukan HTS. Beda antara HTI sama HTS.
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u/trikora 22h ago
buat yang pengen lihat daftar lengkapnya
https://www.ppatk.go.id/backend/assets/uploads/20241023025915.pdf
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u/elonelon Sing penting kelakon 12h ago
jadi status kita di afgan sama suriah ini kek gimana ? kita masih anggap "pemerintah negara" atau udah resmi jadi pemerintah dan perlu pengakuan dari kawan-kawan ?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Net6579 22h ago
I don't follow, someone pls enligthen me.
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u/Ill-Party8305 21h ago
I‘ve been in HTS before, absolute heart breaking. Definitely should be put on crime list
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u/exiadf19 penyuka susu apapun sizenya 21h ago
Same. Bahagianya sedikit, sakit hatinya hampir setiap saat
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u/farhanw 22h ago
Al Nusra emang afiliasi sama Al-Qaeda kan ya, jadi wajar dianggap teroris. Tapi dia ga satu frekuensi sama ISIS.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/groups/al_nusrah_front.html