I don`t see a reason why i should be disciplined.

[u/Icy_Load_5463]

I don’t understand why people care so much about discipline. I don’t care if I’m poor, ugly, fat, or even if I die tomorrow. Nothing matters to me anymore. Every day feels the same, and I don’t see the point in trying to do anything with myself. Life just feels lonely and miserable, and I’m tired of hearing about how I need to fix myself. I have no friends,no social life,no passion or goal,i don`t care about my future nor about my family,everyone who onced cared about me has moved on and feel disdain towards me.I I just don`t know what to do.I see no good reason why i should be disciplined with my life and do something.Can anyone help me with this?

[u/knbxrdslxyx]

I don’t think discipline is a priority for you right now.

Therapy and self love first. Get in a good place then start to challenge yourself

[u/rare_star100]

This sounds like depression. You don’t have to be disciplined but you deserve to enjoy your life. OP, I hope you can reach out to find professional support for how you’re feeling.

[u/Icy_Load_5463 → u/rare_star100]

I don`t really see a reason,my therapist already gave up on me as i`m not willing to change and i`m kind of fine being miserable and alone for the rest of my life...i don`t even know why i`m writing this

[u/j_visionary]

I'll offer a slightly different perspective.

Believe it or not, what you think is 'you' is not really you. There are 3 key parts to 'you'. Your body (or meat machine as I like to call it), the ego (something your mind has created to make sense of everything happening in your life) and your consciousness, which is actually the true you.

Discipline is actually the true you taking the reins on your meat machine and ego, otherwise you're just on autopilot, ending up in a situation like you're in now. The miracle of life is completely overshadowed in your situation.

Unfortunately discipline (or taking the reins on yourself) takes some effort and practice, not much different from going to the gym to build muscle.

The positive is that you can start any time and any place, and even a second matters (kinda opposite of going to the gym, where the final pushup makes the difference). With discipline, it's the first second that makes the biggest difference, and with time you can enter into a state where it's effortless, where you're in control and you're experiencing love, happiness, joy, abundance and ability to do anything. It's worth it. Stay with us buddy, grab those reins and come back whenever and tell us how the real you is now in control.

[u/zanatogenous → u/j_visionary]

Awesome reply!

[u/j_visionary → u/zanatogenous]

Cheers brother

[u/SmokeDatDankShit]

Life is precious, read books, be happy, talk to a doctor about your issues, could really be depression, and it can be damn hard to get that shit turned around if it's been a while.

[u/greenappletw]

The fact that you want help indicates that you do care about yourself and want a nicer life for yourself, which is great.

Discipline isn't the absolute key for that, but it's one of the primary factors. When you are deep in the trenches mentally, you don't need to focus only on discipline. Relax a little and learn self love, then build up discipline bit by bit.

Other people can be very fickle. For me personally, I've been betrayed by most of the major relationships in my life in the past decade. However, I learned not to center my own wellbeing in those relationships. Instead, I worked on building my own self esteem to the extent that I don't rely on other people as much.

The reason this is valuable is because it gives you a big sense of inner contentment and peace, no matter what is going on externally. Like it lifts depression and anxiety in most circumstances. And it makes you stronger during unavoidable hard times. This is the "happiness" that a lot of people chase but can't achieve, because they don't look internally.

You're already asking the deep questions, so I would say you have the mental capacity to figure this out. If you can get therapy or read some self help books about the issues that bother you, try to start there.

[u/Icy_Load_5463 → u/greenappletw]

i don`t `want` help,in fact my therapist who is one of the best and nicest of them give up on me because i`m not willing to change at all and i`ve been going to her for over a year,i keep destroying myself on daily basis by eating shit ton of junk food,jerking off to porn,staying in my room 24/7 and not caring about anything.I`ll just accept i`ll be a miserable piece of shit for the rest of my life and thats it.

[u/atherises]

Sounds a lot like you need discipline to find happiness and meaning in your life.

[u/Sweet_Sunset_]

Only the disciplined are free - Eliud Kipchoge

[u/AsparagusCute2435]

My goal is to become smart as possible. Your whole life is your brain. You fuck it up, you fuck it up. My biggest mistake in my life is trying drugs, from mistakes we learn yeah

[u/terra_filius → u/AsparagusCute2435]

what is your experience with drugs if you dont mind me asking

[u/AsparagusCute2435 → u/terra_filius]

After eating some psychedelic shit i started thinking that my mom was changed with a demon and some other types of hallucinations and delusions. I don't see anything good in drugs

[u/jmwy86]

Well, if you don't have any passions or goals, well then, that's why we try to spend our time focused on things that help us accomplish them. What do you want out of life? Start from the desired end of it and work backwards.

To make it easier on trying to set something that you want to accomplish, change your time frame to a month, make it a modest goal. When you accomplish something by your effort, you feel encouraged to do more and to try again.

At tnd of the day, you are a valuable human being. Perhaps you don't have friends, perhaps you don't like your family, but if you can turn your perspective outward and ask, who can I help today? You might find a different purpose in life because you have gifts and you have abilities that can be used to lighten the load of others and make their lives a better place. As you do it, your own heart will be lifted.

Unfortunately, society, marketing, and generally everything, seems to preach a life of prosperity is where happiness is found. That's not really true. That's where ease and comfort is found. But happiness is found as we serve others. There's also plenty of time for our own hobbies. And I would add, for me, my faith and my religion is also a part of the peace and happiness that helps me keep going, even though the world doesn't seem to like me very much.

May you find your own way and ethos to guide you.

[u/Background-Roll-9019]

You sound like your in pain man, I get it, things didn't work out, ppl werent there. But can you take a look at what you did in your life that you are in the situation you are in today? At-least live for your self, take 6-months to a year to just get in shape find a girl, one hobby (biking, walking, reading, swimming, anything. This helped me greatly.

[u/npepin]

Help you with it? Are you saying that this is how you feel, but you feel you shouldn't feel that way, or that you want to feel different?

I'm just a little confused because from your post it was reading like you were content with the way you are.

[u/ThePluckyJester → u/npepin]

Yeah, there wasn't a specific ask there. So I interpreted it to be something of a vent.

I think a good approach is to ask questions like you're doing

[u/Icy_Load_5463 → u/npepin]

my parents want me to change strongly but i don`t give a fuck about it more or less

[u/AffectionateAsk5773]

Reading your thoughts I can guess you have some grade of depression. I recommend you to see a specialist first, not because you don’t want to be disciplined, that a Symptom of something bigger. You better see a specialist to know what is the cause of this apathy.

Meanwhile, you can apply self care. It’s a little step to feeling better. Take a bath, eat healthy, walk 5 minutes, take another route to the school o university.

[u/True-Breadfruit-511]

No. I'll pull you down faster.

[u/localpunktrash]

Discipline won’t touch depression or suffering… best it’s done for me is give me something else to focus on that’s measurable and objective

[u/SkyKaizen]

Do you want to change anyway? Seems like you've gotten a whole lot of advice but if you dont want to change or want to find the desire to change, then it's kind of meaningless no? It's your life fr

[u/Cultural_Let_360]

You literally say you feel lonely and miserable. Guess what, the people here who are grinding hard and making improvements in there life almost certainly feel less lonely and less miserable than you do. That's enough reason for me. 

[u/BeyondDBeef]

Discipline helps you focus on goals and get used to not giving up on things big or small.

[u/Alldawaytoswiffty]

Live your life how you want it, but if you want to get out of the position your in it's gonna take work. A friend once told me "happiness takes work" so I live by that. I wish we could be kids again when life was just easy and fun but that's not the case. If you want happiness and purpose you gotta give up certain things and works towards something greater everyday.  I hope you find what you need in life and remember it's not a race, but a journey 

[u/vampirequincy]

You are telling yourself many lies. You think you know these things to be true. But there is clearly a dissonance. You are here tying this, why? You know in your heart what is true. Think about your value. Really what do you appreciate about your self? Maybe you’re smart or kind or creative or funny. Maybe it’s hard to tell yourself what is good and what you like because something kicks in to create a comparison and tell you that you are less than someone else, but it’s there. You will have to fight the lies. Go out and try things and see what feels good. Think about your desires and what you value in other people. Likely something about what you respect about others is something you value in yourself. You’re a fundamentally good person with value and individuality.

[u/Hey_u_23_skidoo]

Is there something you can point to that caused you to feel this way or have you always felt this way?

[u/florezmith]

You might want to do something one day that requires you to forego short term rewards for a longer term outcome. A disciplined person can always build more rest periods into their schedule, but someone who is undisciplined will struggle with being more productive because of the mental friction involved. If you feel fulfilled sitting by a river and listening to the peace of your soul, absolutely do that, but don’t confuse stagnation for nobility of spirit.

[u/Prestigious_Bite_314]

Have you tried drinking coffee and doing cardio? It's really anti depressing and lets things fall into place. I do the elliptical and my whole brain rewires. 30-40 minutes of easy pace. Or you can do sports for fun.

[u/stoRedditor]

I feel this way too.

[u/CeramicDrip]

Brother, this is depression. I would seek help

But as advice, id say at least do those things for yourself (hygiene, social life, etc) and look for things you enjoy.

The point im trying to make is that you have to look for something to live for. Purpose doesn’t just randomly hit you in the face. It is something you look for by trying many different things. Don’t live for other people and do things you truly enjoy.

Throughout life, people will challenge you by always telling you what to do. You have to decide for yourself if those things are truly what you want to do.

Let me give you an example, I am getting my first tattoo today. But I come from a culture where its not common and my father is even tryna talk me out of it. He is even offering to pay me not to get it. But I thought about it like this “This is something ive wanted for a while, if someone can buy me out of that idea, what does that say about the idea itself?” If my dad can bribe me out of wanting the tattoo, then chances are its prob not a good idea. Thats why im still getting it.

People will always challenge you, that doesn’t mean you should listen to them. But that also doesn’t mean you shouldn’t listen to the advice of others either. There is a balance.

edit: in terms of discipline and stuff. You don’t have to adopt everything either. I don’t make my bed, or comb my hair everyday. I do it when i feel like it or if im going to an important event.

[u/Brilliant_Chance_874]

Maybe you are afraid to move forward or make a change? Afraid of being happy?

[u/PinkFruityPunch]

Everything you described here makes me think of depression. Getting disciplined is understandably not a priority right now. I hope you are able to reach out and get help. Depression is terrible and soul-crushing, but it can be treated.

[u/Focusaur]

Maybe it’s not about trying to “fix” everything all at once. Sometimes it’s just about taking small steps that don’t feel overwhelming. You don’t have to find some huge reason right now, but maybe try focusing on something that brings even a tiny bit of relief or comfort.

[u/Samloves209]

I think the question is- do you want help? Many people can help you but you have to want help.

[u/RosleneV]

You are viewing life from a distorted lens right now. Depression and apathy can skew and exaggerate negative perceptions of yourself, others, and your view of the world. Especially if you have not yet witnessed a sense of stability or happiness, it can feel like it’s impossible for you to envision living a better life. But even then, the best course of action is to at least try. To not neglect yourself. To hold onto that hope of a better future and at least giving it a try with taking action instead of telling yourself it cannot happen and shooting yourself in the foot before you even started or tried.

I’ve been in your shoes. It really is a mentality. Sometimes we have to have a strong mentality even if our environment says otherwise and if our environment shows no signs of hope. But YOU are that key. Outside of the cliche bs, there’s truth to it. I hope you may experience more better days in life than what you are feeling right now. 🙏🤍✨

[u/raygonjinn]

Life is what you make of it.

[u/rmarden]

Because if you don't discipline yourself, life will do it for you.

And you won't like it when life does it...

[u/TWIMClicker]

Hail mary psychedelic mushroom heroic dose

[u/Crimsonrunner1]

Stay undisciplined all you want as long you don't blame others or leech off the government.

[u/More_Picture6622]

You’re right, life is all just unnecessary suffering and struggle, it’s slaving away meaninglessly for more than half of our lives just for mere survival and then we finally die. Best thing we can do is to not curse more innocent people with this miserable existence without their consent.

[u/[deleted]]

At least you don't have every woman emotionally manipulate you. Telling you you're unattractive, telling you "nobody likes you"(sad thing is she's right). I'm so sick and tired of women getting away with belittling me, and I'm seen as the bad guy for standing up for myself. Imagine being a single guy who nobody talks to. Imagine being a single guy who wants nothing but to love and be loved. Men don't get that unless it's circumstantial.

[u/TallAdhesiveness3486]

Good