r/gayjews • u/DramaticSale6723 • 1d ago

Sexuality Double Mitzvah

Convert here so definitely not an expert on Halakha hence the following question:

Sex on Shabbat is double mitzvah (mitzvot?). But I’ve been told that’s because we are told to “Go forth and multiply,” and enjoy/relax on the Sabbath. As a queer Jew in a same sex relationship, the sex I have has no chance of leading to procreation. Is this still double mitzvah?

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u/Ness303 1d ago

Interesting question. Is it a double mitzvot for an infertile heterosexual couple? Do you have a Rabbi you can ask?

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u/DramaticSale6723 1d ago

I live in a pretty small town in the Midwest of the US and we lost our rabbi this last year. The search is on but no idea when we’ll find a new one. Last search took a few years.

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u/Redcole111 23h ago

Depends on your interpretation of Torah and Talmud. The Talmud argues that any kind of sex, even infertile varieties like oral and anal, are positive between male-female couples because it improves their relationship which is a mitzvah. However, the improvement of their relationship being a mitzvah is related to the biological productivity of their relationship; it's only a mitzvah if the man finishes inside his wife.

So if the sex is just for pleasure, then it's not really a mitzvah, but that's also debatable because it fosters love between members of a partnership, same-sex or not.

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u/Background_Novel_619 1d ago

I mean from a Halachic perspective, it’s not a mitzvah at all. That’s not me making any kind of judgement, I’m gay myself. Up to you how you want to think of things!

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u/TawnLR 16h ago

And then to complicate matters further, there are sex toys with sperm enabling female-female couples to make a baby.

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u/Sad-Essay9859 21h ago

Wouldn't say that, sorry :)