Elder millennial here. I didn't even realize it used to be 10% but of course it was. It was probably 5% before that and once that was considered acceptable they just kept pushing for more. It should've never been considered acceptable in the first place to expect customers to pay a business owner's employees
Inflation is part of the problem, but not the way you're thinking. The issue is the server's wage that the employer pays probably hasn't changed even though prices of goods and rent have gone up. The issue isn't that inflation increased the price of your meal and therefore you should tip more. The percentage covers that. The issue is due to inflation, the server now needs a larger percentage of your meal as a tip so they can later afford to feed themselves. Tipping culture is fucked up. Business owners need to step up and pay their employees. I don't understand how it's gotten this bad and everyone just accepts it
the federal min wage in the US is $7.25 or $7.50 meaning mamy states go with that. the min wage for wait staff is $2 and some change. they make absolutely nothing without tips.
not exactly. Its an incomplete answer. Inflation has far outgrown any wage increases makes service industry jobs needing to make up the difference somewhere and obviously the boss isn't going to pay more so the expectation for higher tips has increased.
I tipped more during covid because I felt like they deserved a little something more for hazard l pay. But now it's ridiculous how many places have tipping on the prompts that didn't before and they frequently start at 18 or 20%.
Between food prices going up, and food quality going down, i just don't go out anymore unless i don't have another option. The convenience of not having to clean up is nice, but i really just can't justify how expensive it is for food that I'm just going to shrug at lol
Yeah I tip 20% pretty much all the time (maybe 18% for counter-service and 15% for takeout), and I will not be tipping more even if culture keeps pushing up. I feel for the workers, but we can’t all keep going along with this or bosses getting away with this bullshit is just gonna get worse and worse. I already live somewhere with a decent minimum wage and no tipped wage (they get the same minimum wage everyone else does, thankfully), so not sure why I’m even expected to pay 20% tbh. I do because I don’t want to be an asshole. But enough is enough. And before someone asks, yes, I’ve worked multiple service industry jobs.
I’ve already stopped going out except very rare occasions. Even then I’ll usually just do takeout and pick it up myself because I can’t afford this nonsense.
Yep, 10% was you did the job, thank you. If you did an excellent job, it would be 15% to say I appreciate your fine service, and sometimes 5% for well, I guess I was served.
It increased during COVID when the service industry took the biggest hit. This was their livelihood and people were being laid off left and right and we as a society rallied around small business.
The prices of so many things skyrocketed during covid and never went back down and I assume it's because once the powers that be realized they could get away with charging that much they just decided to keep doing it.
I've compromised. I know for the time being that servers truly are reliant on tips. I have limited eating out quite a bit because 20% of the bill additionally just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
That said, I absolutely do not tip for take-out that I pick up or anywhere that requests one when I am walking into the establishment and not staying.
Not the bagel shop, not the sandwich shop, not corporate coffee shops, not drive-thru's.
That's super neat but every restaurant bill I used to get fifteen years ago requested an average tip rate of 10%-15% and now it's 20%-25% so you're not about to gaslight me with that dumbass quote 🤣You're literally attempting to disprove actual life experiences with an archived "Chicago Reader's magazine" article this is so fucking Reddit
California doesn't hold an exception to minimum wage (IIRC here in LA county it's $20) for servers but the tipping culture here isn't any different. Even if you order food to-go from someone at a point-of-sale they still ask for tips.
Not to mention everyone prefers cash tips so they can commit tax fraud
If everywhere is operating under the rules of the same system then you’re not ‘paying the employees for the business owner’ - if you weren’t tipping do you think food prices would stay the same? No, of course they wouldn’t because the employee cost would be factored into the prices.
Your parents were just cheap and so are you. 20 percent has been standard since at least the 90's. There's a guy in this thread that's got 15-20% quotes going back to the 50s.
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u/Nonamebigshot Aug 28 '24
Elder millennial here. I didn't even realize it used to be 10% but of course it was. It was probably 5% before that and once that was considered acceptable they just kept pushing for more. It should've never been considered acceptable in the first place to expect customers to pay a business owner's employees