r/facepalm 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ i'm speechless

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u/CamR111 Aug 28 '24

I'm the same. I recently went for a meal and it came out to £84.80 I thought the waitress had been lovely, talking us through the drinks and helping us pick a starter. I paid £90. £5.20 as a tip. It was very unusual for me. I can't remember the last time I tipped in the UK. The service generally doesn't warrant it and often the staff are earning the same or more than I do hourly.

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u/glytxh Aug 28 '24

I’m not tipping for expected service, but if I’m with an obnoxiously drunk group and we’ve been catered to all night, there’s gonna be a £20 tip when the bill comes.

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u/celoteck Aug 28 '24

True. I nearly always tip at least a bit, mostly to not have too much annoying coins in my pockets. Like when I order a beer for 3,70 I just make it 4. But depending on the situation I tip more. If It's a busy night and I have to wait on the bar to order something, I'm not blaming the bartenders or servers but tip them a bit more instead. If we order a whole lot of stuff and constantly want something new the tip is obviously higher and when we spent hours there and everyone gives five bucks extra it quickly adds up to 30-50€. If someone is unnecessarily rude or something I don't tip at all. Also I only tip cash. Here in Germany tipping a server with card is something I don't really trust. No idea if it gets split or just ends up with the owner.

I always see tips as a sign of appreciation (or an apology if I feel like I made their day harder then necessary like ordering and then remembering that I forgot something and making them walk a second time - it's something that is their job but I still caused unnecessary work) not something that should be required.

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u/glytxh Aug 28 '24

Your second paragraph absolutely nails it.

When I’m giving a tip, it’s either a Thank You, or somewhat of an apology.

Always cash. It just feels like an addition to a bill if done with a card, and like you say. I don’t trust card tips.

I’ve worked as a waiter. I never once saw extra money in my paycheque from those card tips.

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u/ninpendle64 Aug 28 '24

I'm in the UK too, will generally tip about 10% for good service in a restaurant.

However what I fail to understand is why their industry is often deemed worthy or tipsy, but my own isn't. I'm a Senior Paddlesport/watersports instructor at a watersports centre, when teaching people how to kayak/canoe/paddleboard I am often only focusing on very few people at one time (maximum of 6/8). Whilst on the water I am responsible for their enjoyment of the session, their learning, and most importantly their safety. I have undertaken many courses to qualify me to run these sessions at cost to myself and always at the end of the session get the "that was amazing, thankyou" etc but never a tip. And I will get paid about the same hourly rate as a waiter/waitress.

There is a complete disconnect between tipping and industries and where it should be done. I would argue that due to my training and mental load, and risk during a day that people in my industry are much more deserving of tips but we often leave the day with nothing extra

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u/Yatima21 Aug 28 '24

If you want tips in the water sports industry you need to be abroad. I don’t know the industry is like since brexit but I did 10 years of beach seasons and I was making bank on tips. The standard operators sun sail Nelson etc, wage was shit but if you are good with people you can easily make £500 extra a week. The hard part was not drinking it all away.