See this is where youâre misunderstanding. The number 1 proponent of tipping culture are the servers. They donât want 15 an hour, they want to keep making tips. My girlfriend in nyc was making 200-300 a night in tips as a server and then 500 as a bartender. This is non taxed money and something people who donât have work visas can do.
Most restaurants in nyc have servers who are not legally allowed to work. So they are staffed with people who will make a lot off tips only.
You canât say the servers arenât making much money on a post with a receipt that would bring in the server $57 for just that one table.
Both presidential candidates have come out in support of untaxed tips. Which is dumb economic policy, but the service industry is a large voter base with a number of strong unions so they get pandered to.
Yeah and this is just a stupid âbuy votes in Nevadaâ policy. Tipped workers are just upset they canât evade taxes anymore now that credit card tips are the norm.
Yep, I work at a (somewhat struggling) restaurant and servers clear $20-40/hr with tips. If you want to lament tipping culture as a consumer, please do, but don't heap pity onto servers/bartenders because they're benefiting heavily from it and aren't looking to change anything.
If she or you think it's untaxed, that's because you don't know how it's supposed to work. Essentially, servers that take cash tips and don't declare them as income are tax evaders. Technically ALL income in the US is supposed to be declared.
Unfortunately, this greatly depends on the area you are working in. If your friend is in NYC, yeah she probably does make a good amount in tips. I worked in a fine dining restaurant for a while. My tips most of the time doubled my income. If you work in less urbanized areas, in more lower to middle class areas, your tips can suck. It also depends on the type of restaurant. If you go to a diner, the tips are going to be shit. Also, in the US tips are supposed to be taxed, which is why many servers would rather have cash tips. Sneak that shit in your pocket and donât mention it.
She makes that much because people tip 20% and the prices. NYC is expensive but people are making 20% everywhere. The only place I hear people complain about tipping is on Reddit and usually started by Europeans. Also I know people who make more than she does at fine dining restaurants and clubs.
Why are people ok with/proud of the fact they are tipping people so much? Seems crazy someone waiting tables/serving drinks would earn so much, or is $300-500 a night not a good wage in NYC?
Itâs a good wage in New York for sure. Prices are high so 20% adds up fast. If she makes 100 drinks that cost an average of 15 dollars then that would be a 300 dollar day for her. In OPs receipt 20% is a 57 dollar tip.
People donât think about it that much, itâs just what you do. If you canât afford to go out to eat then donât go out. Restaurants already fail at insane rates so if tipping did stop then the food and drink prices would likely have to increase by a lot as well.
In the end does tipping culture hurt the consumers, probably yes. Does it hurt the servers, almost definitely not.
My girlfriend in nyc was making 200-300 a night in tips as a server then 500 ad a bartender. This is non-taxed money and something people who donât have work visas can do.
Itâs only non-taxed if you donât claim it, which is something your girlfriend, and everyone else who gets tips should be claimingâŚ
It is taxed money. Also the server doesn't keep all of that tip, they only receive a percentage of it. Servers are mostly paid a poverty wage, many only $2.18 an hour.
This server had to tip out based on the sale of that bill and now LOST money because they didn't tip. Fuck those people.
Yeah I know someone who was getting $2.18/hr and they told me they had to not declare their tips or else their paychecks would be negative (meaning they owe money.) Itâs clearly a fucking common thing or else it wouldnât be easily searchable as ânegative paycheck tipped employeeâ
Right and it doesnât matter that there are servers who work for $2.18/hr and owe money afterwards because you get $500 every night as a bartender in NY.
Not all servers feel the same way about tipping, and you only feel the way you do because youâre benefitting from an unequal system that allows for servers less fortunate than you to be taken advantage of.
Thatâs not what it said at all. The post said that the server was claiming all their tips unlike their coworkersâ not that they claimed them all at once
Youâre right I apologize. Iâm the one who misread. However the reason their paycheck was negative was because they made so much in tips that their whole check and then some went towards taxes. The person is still making 30-35 an hour they said. This person is also not American but a Canadian.
The person is still making 30-35 an hour they said.
Yes this person is. But there are servers who do not, and itâs ridiculous to act like itâs impossible that a server in a $2/hr state could experience a negative paycheck without making $30-$35/hr. Yes, itâs not supposed to work that way, but it does happen to servers. Just like servers get sexually harassed by their bosses and stick around because they donât have the means to fight back. The problem is that the system isnât structured to protect servers but to protect the business owners.
Also itâs just ridiculous to act like a negative paycheck is ever okay when you personally have a minimum wage well above $2/hr. The whole reason you feel the way you do is because youâre not personally being screwed over.
This person is also not American but a Canadian.
And? That doesnât mean that it doesnât happen in the US. $2/hr States exist (TX, AR) and usually those are the states where you will find bosses who are more ready to violate the law with their serversâ especially because the servers in those states are âright to workâ and have no power to actually fight back against shitty treatment from bosses. ( where you can see which states have $2/hr wages https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped) Also, there were US citizens responding in that thread so donât act like itâs completely irrelevant because the poster was Canadian. It happens there, which is comparatively a bit better than the US with workers rights, so how can you dismiss the reality that it happens here too?
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u/Clown_Shoe Aug 28 '24
See this is where youâre misunderstanding. The number 1 proponent of tipping culture are the servers. They donât want 15 an hour, they want to keep making tips. My girlfriend in nyc was making 200-300 a night in tips as a server and then 500 as a bartender. This is non taxed money and something people who donât have work visas can do.
Most restaurants in nyc have servers who are not legally allowed to work. So they are staffed with people who will make a lot off tips only.
You canât say the servers arenât making much money on a post with a receipt that would bring in the server $57 for just that one table.