Fast food restaurants here will start the paid onboarding the same day. That’s literally the opposite of the unpaid place settings servers do before open.
Apparently there is a greater incentive to wait tables than to flip burgers and work a register.
There was a line of customers while zero people staffed the register this morning due to a lack of employees. I had to wait for someone to show up, help the person at the register, then help me.
In the US it seems more like an exercise of power by the restaurant owner and the server, at the cost of the customer. Servers would not be so gleefully sharing how much they love tipping if they didn't like it. The only people fucked over are the poor saps caving to social pressures and tipping 20% for every bit of service, down to starbucks or a bagel place.
This, exactly. Someone I know told me they treat dining in as a job interview for the waitstaff. If they do well, they get a tip. If they do not, they get 25 cents. They said they leave a quarter so that the waitstaff know they didn't forget to tip.
It is fucked but every server or bartender I've asked this question to prefer the tips plus a low hourly base. Cash tips also seem to go under reported.
The only people it benefits is customers, as an expat it was nice knowing the entire price when dining out vs adding a 20% surcharge on everything but the portion size makes up for it!
I am extremely skeptical of it because the ‘tests’ done are just some random cases they collected over a large timespan and they took only the business in account and their loss of staff, not the actual waiter and if those who stayed benefited. So how do we know if the business made the right choices? Maybe they did it all wrong. And the biggest problem also, they did this in an environment where everyone else still uses the old system, which forces them to compete and the customers have a completely different view or mindset. That doesn’t work.
People overlook this bit constantly. Being hourly means they have to put all the hours in to get payed. Most people I know waiting or bartending are making what they'd make in 40 hours at a typical hourly wage of 15-20/hr, 30+ in some cases, in half that time.
It's funny, because most servers prefer tips. I would prefer to just pay the price for food + living wage, but there are just as many servers who are proponents of tipping culture as there are people who complain about it.
This is it right here. A lot of waiters don't want to get rid of the tipping system but at the same time will complain saying that the pay is not enough which is true but then if there was a vote to increase the wage and get rid of the tipping system a lot of waiters would vote against it.
I used to spend a lot of time in bars when I was younger (worked in a city, hung out after work), and many of the bartenders and servers made just as much as I did in a white collar job, even at less-fancy places. They all worked later hours, and some had to do a lot more work, but one guy made just as much in a weekend as I did all week.
I'm not a huge fan of people not paying their way if their income is at a level that can support contributing to taxes, and so that's why I no longer cash tip. I do cash tip a dollar or two at the ice cream place though, those kids need beer money.
yes but somehow a lot of people think “i just won’t tip then” is some kind of own on the system when all it’s doing is fucking the server so now both the boss and the customer are doing it.
Forcing the employee to be a happy, smiley, performing monkey otherwise they won't get paid is disgusting and dehumanising, tbh. You expect a certain level of professionalism, but I don't need someone fawning all over me to prove they're doing a good job.
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u/HillInTheDistance Aug 28 '24
Yeah. Forcing the employee to negotiate their wage every time they serve a customer is kinda fucked.