r/facepalm 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ i'm speechless

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u/Lonelybiscuit07 Aug 28 '24

1 table didn't tip

CLOSE THE BORDERS THIS IS WAR

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u/xhgdrx Aug 28 '24

if this table had tipped correctly, that would've been $50-70 that the server could've had in their pocket and probably put more effort into this table because of it. but because of the unorthodox way they're paid, he probably only got $0.50 for the table.

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u/Lonelybiscuit07 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

If you send me $50-70 I would have that in my pocket too. If you're down to just hand out extra money to strangers.

Customer pays boss -> boss pays staff -> staff works for the boss -> boss skimms off the profits

If the boss can't afford the staff he either should do the work himself or close his business because it's not profitable. If the staff doesn't want to provide good service for their pay , they need a different job.

Your logic that someone will work harder for a bigger tip doesn't make sense. They only get the tip after they provide the service, so while they're providing it they don't have that incentive yet. If they're really good at their job they should get paid what they're worth like every other job/business.

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u/xhgdrx Aug 28 '24

Your logic that someone will work harder for a bigger tip doesn't make sense. They only get the tip after they provide the service, so while they're providing it they don't have that incentive yet.

that's completely backward. that incentive is there the whole time because the tip directly reflects the level of service received. that's literally the whole point of it. they're supposed to do a better job because it's going to directly reflect how they're paid. it's terrible. and it makes situations like this even worse.

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u/xhgdrx Aug 28 '24

sure, in a perfect world, that's not here, though. just because it could be better doesn't mean that it is or will be. Instead, what you're doing is just pointing and laughing at a person who just lost a meal for the next two days.

im trying to explain why this is bad practice and unfair, and you're just telling me shit i already know, but it isn't in any way applicable.

that's also not handing out money to strangers. Like i said, that server probably worked extra hard to make sure that table had everything they needed and had great service. That's what you'd be paying for, not just randomly leaving money on the ground like you seem to be thinking.

you could very well get up and get your own drinks, order your own food at a register, pick up your own food at the counter, tell the kitchen staff if anything is wrong with your meal or if anything is missing, throw away all of your own trash, and take all of your own dishes to the counter as well. but instead, someone who's being paid $3 an hour is doing all of that for you. You really don't think that's worth paying for?

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u/Lonelybiscuit07 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

I do think it's worth paying for, but the cost should be calculated in the menu prices. And why would the server work extra hard if the tip is expected anyways? They need to work extra hard for you to grace them with a livable wage? I don't think that should be your responsibility as a diner. Do you go tip the guys in the kitchen too? Cause they're working hard for you too but don't get tips normally.

Also the places that make me get up and get my own food and drinks also charge tips.

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u/xhgdrx Aug 28 '24

It's expected, but it's not necessary, as you can clearly see with this post. them doing a better job and being a step above with their service will directly affect the tipped amount. poor service could be tipped 5-10% the normal amounts are in the post 15% 20% and 25% and ive seen my family receive exceptional service and they tipped 35%. if i get up and get my own food and drink, then i simply dont tip cause there's no reason to.

and no, the people in the kitchen get paid a fair wage for the work they do, and they often don't try harder to make sure the customer gets a great experience, most barely do what's asked of them. and i know because i work in the kitchen. but my place of work does have a system in place where customers are able to tip the kitchen staff.