r/facepalm • u/flyingcatwithhorns 'MURICA • Aug 28 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ i'm speechless

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u/SmackedWithARuler Aug 28 '24

If a tip is mandatory then isn’t it a tax?

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u/TetraThiaFulvalene Aug 28 '24

It would be a fee. Only the government can levy taxes.

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u/Gilligan_G131131 Aug 28 '24

And they are good at it!

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u/EarzFish Aug 28 '24

In the UK if you mandate a service charge, the company must pay tax on it. So they auto apply it as discretionary and hope nobody removes it. Then the companies take a percentage of it for "administration".

This all changes in october however when it will be law that 100% of tips go to staff.

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u/moonmarriedacherry Aug 28 '24

Love that the gov will actually be passing that law.

I will say though, I’m lucky enough to have worked in places that respect and care for their employees enough to pay us our deserved wages AND keep our tips

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u/NiceButOdd Aug 28 '24

Also, in the UK, the customer does not have to pay the service charge. It is totally optional and you can legally ask to have it taken off the bill.

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u/EarzFish Aug 29 '24

Indeed. That is what I meant by discretionary.

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u/Barkis_Willing Aug 28 '24

Is someone saying it is manditory?

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u/NewLibraryGuy Aug 28 '24

It's not mandatory, it's a social custom.

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u/McSchlub Aug 28 '24

Tips aren't mandatory.

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u/FalcoonM Aug 28 '24

No, no , no taxes are government things. They just ask you nicely and dare you to face public pressure - "how dare you not to tip and take food from the mouths of hardworking people living on those tips".