r/elonmusk • u/twinbee • 3d ago
General Elon: "Legacy media is written by the FAR LEFT. Only 3% of journalists are Republican! It is borderline illegal in newsrooms to be a Republican journalist."
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/187089389572452766716
u/darkestvice 3d ago
What's his definition of legacy media? Cause I'm pretty sure the absolutely gargantuan powerhouse that is FOX has more than 3% influence or journalists.
Now if you're talking about independent media, I might be prone to believing it as young journalists on the web definitely tend towards the left .. but legacy media? Not a chance.
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u/VoradorTV 3d ago
Fox news is by far the biggest Legacy platform and calling them far left is insane
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u/qpazza 3d ago
And only one network gave us a choreographed display of obedience.
And only one network got caught lying about elections
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u/RevolutionaryLength9 3d ago
interesting I could have sworn all the liberal networks were in lockstep lying to the public about how biden was as sharp as a tack until they couldn't anymore. a much more impressive display of obedience IMO.
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u/qpazza 3d ago
Your anecdotes vs an actual video with everyone echoing the same exact script.
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u/Vapechef 2d ago
Well there’s that clip of “threat to our democracy” over and over again they say the same shit across every platform
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u/WilmaLutefit 3d ago
I can tell you only get your news from twitter lol. Biden was attacked nearly his whole presidency by cnn. Go look at how cnn has framed Trump rambling about taking over Canada, Greenland and Panama. There is no “liberal media”. There is just a boogeyman for low info people.
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u/SublimeCosmos 2d ago
That’s your best example? Biden didn’t drop out soon enough. lol
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u/_DrDigital_ 3d ago
I think the key word is "journalist". Fox is by their own admission in court entertainment, not news. No journalists present.
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u/joespizza2go 3d ago
I'm actually glad he's using the term "legacy" media. It highlights that the new "Mainstream Media" is dominated by center right and right leaning - Fox crushes CNN, Twitter, Joe Rogan and podcasting.
So, even though this is troll bait, the answer is "Yes, but we should be more concerned about how right wing the new mainstream media is"
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u/ALTERFACT 3d ago
And even more concerning is that the "new" "Mainstream media" is 100% opinion commentators with zero grounding on actual facts or reason.
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u/joespizza2go 3d ago
The current right is absolutely a refutation of educated liberal thought. So that's a feature, not a bug! And an opportunity for understanding how we ended up here.
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u/maninthemachine1a 3d ago
You're almost there...let's try again. "The current right is absolutely a refutation of educated journalism." There we go.
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u/joespizza2go 3d ago
It's broader than journalism though. Climate change/Science/COVID. Economic theory on the benefits of trade. Political theory on the benefits of global order vs America first.
It's a wholesale refutation right now.
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u/maninthemachine1a 3d ago
Ok so I think I get it...."The current right is absolutely a refutation of education, science, and expertise."
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u/DaChoppa 2d ago
Not only this but people think this suffices as news. You'll hear people gleefully welcome the replacement of traditional news organizations with idiots like Rogan without knowing that we need professional journalists to actually find out the basic facts of reality i.e., actual news. Of course the commentator ls can just make things up or of whole cloth not unlike they're doing now.
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u/Role_Player_Real 3d ago
Does Fox News employ journalists or are they nearly all categorized as entertainers for this data?
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u/alexgalt 2d ago
It absolutely is not. NBC cbs abc are older and bigger. CNN is the biggest pure news network in the world. Fox is not even comparable. CNN is followed by bbc
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u/MaxPowerGamer 2d ago
Calling them a news agency or journalists is insane. They are purely opinion based and do not deal in facts or research which is the cornerstone of journalism.
News Corp (Murdoch) only cares about money and who pays him the most to promote a story or opinion.
Elon removed any chances of fact finding when he took over Twitter further compounding false narratives and foreign propagandists.
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u/Frothylager 3d ago
I’m confused, was Fox counted as independent or excluded from this poll for some reason?
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u/jelhmb48 3d ago
Despite being around for decades and being by far the most watched news channel in the US, Fox News is somehow not considered "mainstream" or "legacy" media by Republicans. Absolute delusion
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u/Frothylager 3d ago
I see so it’s a right wing poll skewed to support a right wing ideal while ignoring objective reality, sounds about right.
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u/JaninAellinsar 2d ago
Fox News is also not officially categorized as a news outlet, and has argued in court on multiple occasions they are not in any way beholden to tell the truth, and that what they say is solely for entertainment purposes only.
Aka they called their own base dummies for believing them.
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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 2d ago
They aren’t journalists, they argued in court that they be classified as entertainment to avoid lawsuit for slander or lying or something
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u/Linux_is_the_answer 3d ago
That graph tells me media might be biased, but it isnt exactly the fault of the majority independent journalists
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u/Season_Traditional 3d ago
That's because journalists are held to a higher standard of proof. You can't lie your ass off or you'll get sued. You can't tell all the lies required for right-wing media AND be a journalist.
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u/Beastrick 3d ago
No comment on the fact that over 50% are independent? Isn't it good thing that we have less biased journalists than ever before?
This article might add some context why this trend is happening.
https://san.com/cc/only-3-4-of-us-journalists-identify-as-republicans-fewest-ever/
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u/Mojeaux18 3d ago
Less bias yes, but the bias is stronger than ever. The newsroom used to be a reflection of American society. Now it’s a reflection of elitist university society. Not a good look nor is it unbiased, rather it’s detached from reality.
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u/RevolutionaryLength9 3d ago
news was never a reflection of American society, it just seemed more respectable in the past because they had a monopoly on the narrative and alternative media didn't exist to explain how they were lying out of their ass.
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u/ProfessionalCreme119 3d ago edited 3d ago
The newsroom used to be a reflection of American society.
When?
Like are we talking the mid 1900s when they started focusing on ratings/profits over facts? Or the early 1900s when the media was controlled by barons and tycoons?
When exactly are you saying media wasn't biased or owned by outside sources? Because traditionally we have never really had a free press and I think you're just talking out of your ass.
Edit: replied to and blocked.... It's so consistent in this sub.
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u/ALTERFACT 3d ago
Noteworthy that the richest man in history calls "far left" the party who is just begging for crumbs of what all the rest of wealthy democracies have had for decades now but who have the potential to scrutinize him and his businesses. Also, even if they are Republicans, actual journalists would do the same, as journalism is not political commentary and punditry. All in with his crusade to delegitimize and undermine the free press and the rest of our social institutions, for his and fellow plutocrats' gain. He is also ignoring the fact that - with the exception of '90s the share of "democrats" is virtually the same over decades, but "independent" has substantially increased since 2013.
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u/JustVic_92 3d ago
Far right: Continously shows heavy disdain for legacy media and keeps playing the victim card whenever their bs is reported on.
Also far right: wHy AreN't MoRe JoUrNaLiStS rEpUbLiCaN?
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u/chillinewman 3d ago
Yes, the argument fits so well for billionaires or soon to trillionaire interests. Divide the plep while they loot the place without any check, especially the media.
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u/iscreamsunday 3d ago
Yeah because republicans are dumb af and don’t make good journalists.
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u/Eurofighterx 3d ago
Elon is one of those wanting to abolish democracy while pretending to be the saviour of it.
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u/Snoo_76437 3d ago
The worldview he's pushing on the masses is whatever one he thinks will make people least likely to turn around and say hey maybe we need to grab this "world's richest man" and forcefully redistribute his wealth
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u/x_o_x_1 3d ago
The fact that the republicans just won the electoral college and popular votes inherently show that that leftward tilt is not a true reflection of reality, at least in America.
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u/JonnyBolt1 3d ago
Elon: "Legacy media is written by the FAR LEFT", with chart showing that the majority of all journalists are independent. "Leftward tilt" because many media outlets pay < minimum wage so hire more people who vote democrat than republican while outwardly trying to report fairly? Fine, but that's not what Elon said.
(FWIW I'm dubious of the 3.4% republican claim, I'd have to study the data source - does it include Fox News, OAN, NY Post? Smaller newspapers with much less reach but skew democrat? Is it just a survey, where many conservatives like to project as independent thinkers so declare themselves independent?")
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u/Ifnerite 3d ago
It is absolutely a reflection of reality, it's just that reality now has little influence in elections. Without indication of party the majority agrees with more left policy but don't vote that way.
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u/CletusCanuck 3d ago
If you think 'legacy media' are 'far left', you probably enjoy a little 🪿in your 🦶
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u/RetiringBard 3d ago
“Far left”? What on earth is he actually talking about? The media has nearly zero far left representation. They are center right most often.
Oh shit I forgot GOP thinks not hating drag queens is a “left” thing. Maybe that definition fits. It’s dumb af but …yeah it’s the GOP
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u/TommyKnox77 3d ago
But why their leader wear full drag queen make-up and his VP buddy eye-liner? These mofos are confusing
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u/RamaSchneider 3d ago
Today's billionaires are the whiniest creations ever! Everybody and everything is out to get them, those poor, poor billionaires.
Musk is an idiot and an active supporter of a proven and unrepentant rapist. Fact.
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso 3d ago
Just a few years ago he considered himself among the left. Why does he pretend these are rigid unchanging ideologies? I suppose now that he revealed himself as just another right wing oligarch who tries to buy elections anyone to the left of Genghis Khan is a leftist.
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u/Javina33 3d ago
Could be that the Republican party is no longer conservative - it’s morphed into a party promoting far right ideologies, spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories. It would be difficult for anyone with critical thinking skills to support them. No wonder they don’t like funding education.
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u/RedstoneEnjoyer 3d ago
His own stats show that majority of jounralists are centrist/indenpends. Yet he claims that jounralists are "far-left"
That is pretty damning testamen of his personal ideology
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u/Javina33 3d ago
He’s as bad as Trump when it comes to twisting information. It’s very concerning that someone with such close ties to Russia and China and is so willing to spread far right propaganda has wormed his way into the centre of government with no one casting a single vote for him.
If the GOP had done their job when they had the chance to convict Trump for the insurrection , we wouldn’t be in this position now. Once Trump is sworn in God knows what’s going to happen. I have a feeling none of it is going to be good for the USA, the rest of the world or the planet itself.
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u/Equal-Ice3837 3d ago
So many purple ones. What are they supposed to be?
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u/RedstoneEnjoyer 3d ago
Probably everything outsdie of these 3, including actual leftist
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u/Lost-Economist-7331 3d ago
Because educated intelligent people can research, think and write. Educated intelligent people prefer facts and empathy over falsehoods and selfishness.
Republicans are devoid of the qualities needed for honest journalism.
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u/GoldSourPatchKid 3d ago
Republicans do not value education. They are literally going to eliminate the department of education. I live in Arkansas, surrounded by some of the least educated people in the nation. Most of these people can barely string a thought into a coherent sentence. It would take a million years for these yokels to write a piece for The Atlantic.
“I don’t want a nation of thinkers; I want a nation of workers” - Rockefeller (and probably Musk)
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u/freddymerckx 3d ago
Lol if anything it's 3% far left and Conservative loudmouths everything else. There are no true "left wing " journalists with a broad platform
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u/ConversationCivil289 3d ago
Cause in journalism you report the truth. Republicans generally struggle with that. By far the Republican voice in media is larger than the lefts, they just can’t call themselves journalists or they would have to face lawsuits
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u/Practical_Bet_8709 3d ago
Elon acting like he’s bipartisan making everyone see his tweets, even if they don’t want to
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u/SalaciousCoffee 3d ago
Or... Conservatism is a fragile ideology quickly dismantled by reality.
Hence why it vanishes inside newsrooms.
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u/midnight_palace 3d ago
What is considered ”FAR LEFT” according to elon musk?
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u/RedstoneEnjoyer 3d ago
Elon considers sector where 51% of members are indenpends as "far-left" - which obviously beg question in what far-right dimension is this dude when he claim that
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u/Mogwai3000 3d ago
Doesn't matter what journalists claim to be. Journalists don't get to pick and chose the stories or the framing or the narratives the media reports. Editors and owners do, and those tend to vastly favor the right. Which is why barely any media orgs are actually "liberal" at all. They will always side in favor of corporations and elites, and against progressive changes. That makes them conservative by definition.
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u/waddiewadkins 3d ago
Republicans aren't funny , there might be one or two, but come the fuck on and smell the coffee
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u/rustyiron 3d ago
Tough to be a Republican when you job is reporting facts. And when you examine the facts on a range of issues and then consider how republicans deal with these facts, I don’t see how you can reconcile the two.
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u/AllNightPony 3d ago edited 1d ago
Media should be non-partisan. And I would gladly welcome "Republican" journalists into the fold, but on one condition.
STOP FUCKING LYING AND PUSHING FALSE NARRATIVES ASSHOLES!!!
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u/RedstoneEnjoyer 3d ago
Ignoring the fact that fox news is largest legacy medium, the fact that Musk is bitching about "far-left domination" while showing that most journalists are indenpends is really telling about his own political positions
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u/Different-Highway-88 2d ago
I know Elon is a moron, but even by his standards this seems quite stupid
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u/SearchingforSquirt 2d ago
Well, when you decide that education is something that you don’t want people to have and it becomes a fundamental centerpiece within your political ideology, this is what you end up with; ignorant, individuals that can’t just get on air and say anything or can’t just write something that actually has some merit to it and say. I don’t think he’s that intelligent, but I definitely know he’s not dumb enough to not understand this.
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u/Moppermonster 3d ago
All major newschannels in the usa are owned by the same investment corporations. They are not far right or far left, they are for profit and merely present as left/right to make profit or to spread a narrative that increases profit.
Musk runs X the same way.
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u/AstroBullivant 3d ago
No. Most news channels don’t actually make money but are owned by companies with other ventures that do
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u/EagleDre 3d ago edited 3d ago
Nonsense. Thats why Fox is so successful. There’s a handful on one side and a hundred spitting out the exact same story and perspective on the other side.
It’s comical, but it’s not profitable.
I remember the very early 90s. CNN was the absolute king and owned national news. There were even tvs set up in supermarkets at the checkout counters broadcasting the Persian Gulf war all tuned to CNN. To me, Bernard Shaw was the GenX Walter Cronkite.
Then in the mid 90s it became much more partisan, opening the door for another company. Yep. FoxNews
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u/Jsweenkilla16 3d ago
So he got elected as president Elon even though all media is bias towards him? Is this guy back on the Kn what?
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u/Formal-Revolution42 3d ago
This Twinbee guy is a Russian hoping to dock with Elon one day.
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u/schwing710 3d ago
I’m shocked that the guy who thinks we live in a simulation would spout such a horse shit theory! Shocked, I tell you!
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u/Zementhead 3d ago
I wonder why there are so few republican journalists? Could it be that intelligent educated journalists are left of centre
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u/Fragrant_Ad_3223 3d ago
Elon is like basically a Tammy Craps doll that has extra farts added to her head
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_5710 3d ago
We all know this is utter bollocks. Actual news media is dominated by the right. Might have a point if you talk fiction, drama, music, comedy etc - but that basically means right wingers are shit at being creative
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u/DugansDad 2d ago
That was true 30 years ago. Not today. If it was, Fox wouldn’t have promoted Trump’s lies about 2020, and wouldn’t be in court today with Smartmatic. But you ain’t heard about that, have you MAGAstan?
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u/suphomess 2d ago
Here in Sweden there's only left leaning media when it comes to televised media. Funnily enough the majority of people seems to be unaware of this. They actually think that the news media here is "neutral". As that actually would be a real thing 😂
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u/kobrakai11 2d ago
So according to Elon: Independent means far left. Also, Fox news is not journalism.
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u/Trooper057 2d ago
I think more people would be Republicans if to be one you didn't have to believe, and profess loudly and often, a bunch of ridiculous things, as well as be mad at everyone else you don't think believes or lives correctly all the damn time. It's mentally and emotionally exhausting to care so much about the things they insist are essential truths of both human nature and political reality. Meanwhile, they elect shady businessmen who steal from society and trickle down all the consequences onto you, me, and everyone.
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u/akademmy 2d ago
Why the f do people listen to this guy any more? It's like he's been brainwashed. Has he hit his head? Has he been cloned and replaced? Blackmailed? Wtf is going on?
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u/Last_Construction455 2d ago
Who even watches mainstream media anymore? They all lie and have their own narratives they push. Completely untrustworthy which shows in their ratings. They sacrificed the principals of journalism and now they are reaping what they sewed
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u/PaleontologistOwn878 2d ago
All media by it's very nature is conservative, it's owned by major corporations. It doesn't mean there aren't left leaning people on these channels but I really hate this lie they keep spewing. It's like people calling Bernie Sanders extreme in any other country he's a moderate, but in America money and corporations run everything.
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u/DaBullsnBears1985 2d ago
Because you report facts does that make you more of a liberal or conservative?
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u/Quercusagrifloria 2d ago
The problem is, we have been taught that the descent into sheer madness is something to be feared. See how comical it is, I have to wonder if that was legacy psychiatry that did that to us?
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u/twinbee 3d ago
With his comment, Elon also posted this image: https://i.imgur.com/8yw8j70.png