r/collapze • u/jeremiahthedamned DOOMER • May 30 '24

War bad A recent video of Rabbi Eliyahu Mali, head of the Shirat Moshe Yeshiva, shows him teaching new IDF recruits how they should behave in combat in Gaza according to Jewish laws. According to Jewish law, you should in prioritize killing women and children first.

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u/Darthbabegirl May 30 '24

Captions are completely incorrect. Not at all what he is saying.

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u/jeremiahthedamned DOOMER May 30 '24

please correct the record.

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u/Darthbabegirl May 30 '24

Here's a few from the first few seconds: "Anashshim" means "people" not "women" as it was translated. "Mitzvah milchama" was translated as "holy war" when it actually means "the laws of war". I'm not going to waste my time translating the whole thing for you. If people want to get educated they certainly won't learn anything truthful from this.

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u/jeremiahthedamned DOOMER May 30 '24

sorry

the translation is under the video.

making another translation will not be done by me.

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u/Darthbabegirl May 30 '24

Wrong again. There are words under the video but they are not a translation of what he is saying.

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u/jeremiahthedamned DOOMER May 30 '24

i only have your report of this.

if you will not translate this then maybe someone else has?

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u/ttystikk May 30 '24

Oh, so you're smart enough to "know" the translation is incorrect but you can't be bothered to actually do any work?

Clearly, you're nothing but a shill, an apologist for genocide.

Begone, hasbara trash!

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

Yeah my gut checked out. It's holy war because it's a rabbi. The law comes down from God. Everything else they said was irrelevant because the law says to terrorize children

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u/Darthbabegirl May 30 '24

Are you hooked on phonics? If not you should be. I just translated enough of it to show you the translation is incorrect and antisemetic propaganda just like the shit you probably jack off to when your not hacking off to Hamas rapists fucking their captives and the killing them. I’m not fluent in Hebrew but i know enough to hear that this is wrong and I just showed you that. Not that you give a shit because your obvious goal is to spread hate and anti Jewish propaganda.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

Also you said this

I'm not going to waste my time translating the whole thing for you

This strongly implies that you could translate it but then you admit you can't.

I genuinely feel bad for yall..If someone on your subs says something don't automatically believe it. You got me to look up some stuff to realize you were wrong. Maybe you can do your own googlimg rather than attempting to discredit something all over the internet.

This is just hoping you didn't make up the translation thing on your own. If you did make it up, please be of service to the world and not this country you're emotionally and culturally tied to. Just learn to let go. I hate the US and live in it. Dunno where you live but you can try to learn that the first world are not the good guys.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

I read a lot and know basics of language. It's irrelevant whether he said "holy war" or "laws of war." He is a rabbi. Rabbis are the people that supposedly talk to God.

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u/Darthbabegirl May 30 '24

It’s completely not irrelevant. There is no holy war in Judaism. That’s an Islamic thing. He’s a rabbi discussing what the Torah says about the laws of war. In Judaism war is not something to strive for, however war happens, and there are rules for it.

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u/ttystikk May 30 '24

In Judaism war is not something to strive for, however war happens, and there are rules for it.

Yes so to be clear, Israel is breaking ALL of those rules and this clown is wrapping himself in the trappings of religion while calling for the absolutely most vile methods to kill and demoralize the "enemy," really a people. That's called GENOCIDE.

He is the worst of the worst and so are you because you defend him.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

Yes and those rules include killing women and children

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

Ben Gvir also said to kill women and children and that's more relevant because he's got real power

https://thefrontierpost.com/israeli-army-should-shoot-women-and-children-in-gaza-for-israels-security-national-security-minister/

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u/Darthbabegirl May 30 '24

Ben gvir is a piece of shit. That being said he’s speaking about responding to being attacked by women and children. That’s what Hamas trains their kids to do.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

That's what anyone would tell their kids to do if under constant attack

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

The laws of war as commanded by God is what he meant.

Here's what he said

“Whoever comes to kill you with this concept does not only include the young man aged 16, 18, 20, or 30 who is now pointing a weapon at you, but also the future generation (the children of Gaza), and those who produce the future generation (women of Gaza), because there is really no difference”.

Even if he said "the laws of war" it doesn't make the rest okay

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/not-every-soul-shall-live-jewish-rabbi-encourages-killing-of-palestinian-children-women/

Edit: anashshim---in reference to the people that create the children--women.

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u/Volfegan May 30 '24

As you can see, fight_disinformation is a pro-Hamas sub that uses disinformation as propaganda and irony in their sub-name "fight disinformation". The truth does not matter for people who already choose their sides. If you ask them they will say both are bad, but you can see what they post and what they downvote. Nobody will change their minds, because if humans could do that, we would not have killed this planet.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

This was reported in the press months ago

https://thefrontierpost.com/israeli-army-should-shoot-women-and-children-in-gaza-for-israels-security-national-security-minister/

Sinus you called it a Hamas sub it sounds like you chose a side. Maybe I have been more sympathetic to Palestine but I don't like seeing the Israeli embassies on fire. I just want the war to stop.

There is probably a fair amount of fake news on both sides which is why I don't like what the other commenter did. They got exposed.

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u/Volfegan May 30 '24

Of course, I chose a side. I'm not too fond of the side where women are enslaved without rights & sold as young as Islamic pedophiles want, gays are murdered, and anyone with a different religion is persecuted. Brazil received a lot of Lebanese people who fled those Islamic terrorists, so it seems I am as bias to one side as the source you provided is to the other. Even one of our presidents was a descendant of Lebanese. Or a friend of my girlfriend is the daughter of Lebanese refugees.

The difference is normal people don't want to waste their time posting in favour of Israel due to their bad right-wing government, but people in favour of Palestinians have no problem ignoring their terrorist and dictatorship support and all that Sharia, etc. Like Afghanistan, terrorists won, women living there lost, but a lot of people cheered they won. Now they are unhappy terrorists are losing.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24 edited May 31 '24

Palestine is more liberal than wahhabiism that's practiced by Saudi Arabia, UAE and by the Taliban. You can tell from the lack of burqas in any videos. The US exports wahabbiusm and uses it to their gains. To me the question isn't to defend Hamas but rather to condemn war crimes. Both Hamas and Israel committed them and I condemn both of them. The Palestinian Authority is far more liberal than Hamas and they get beat up by Israel as Hamas is being slaughtered. Israel is far worse to the women and gays in Gaza than Hamas has ever been. I hate Hamas and Israel and support a free Palestine under the PA.

I've been following this conflict for 20yrs hoping that Israel would come to its senses. Since the Hamas election Israel has committed war crimes in 2009, illegal Blockade in 2010, War Crimes in 2014, Shot people marching towards the border fence in 2018, and then this abhorrent war in 2023/2024. There was also some west bank issues in 2021. Israel is supposed to be the more liberal democracy so I hold them to a higher standard than a terrorist prison colony. Everything about Israel and their settlements are illegal under intentional law. Palestinians have the right to violently resist the occupation under international law too.

I know many Jews and Arabs. I've dated a Jew right after a 3rd generation Lebanese girl. The Arabs I know are fully westernized. Even though my smokeshop guy closes down for 5mins for prayers he's plenty westernized. My neighborhood is diverse. I do work for a Kurdish organization. We do not have an influx in extremism when we take in Arab refugees.

Hamas is plenty backwards and vile but the Israeli govt called Palestinians "sons of amalek" and invoked the Bible. A very popular song in Israel called for the deaths of Muslim celebrities Dua Lipa, Bella Hadid and Mia Khalifa. Jews are plenty western in the US but in Israel they don't look much like a western democracy.

I hold Israel and the US to a higher standard because they have the power. Both countries fail miserably.

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u/Volfegan May 30 '24

Palestinian terrorists started those conflicts and rejected all peace accords. There won't be peace. Obviously, Israeli religious extremists are no different from any religious extremists, but then again women have a lot less rights in Islamic regimes, gays are murdered on sight, pedophilia is legal with parents selling young girls to old bastards. Saying Palestinian women have a tad bit more rights, but not much, compared with other Islamic shitholes is not worth bragging. They started this war too, so again, when they lose, they lose territory.

Internation law is a joke as Iran is in charge of the Human Rights in the United Nations while financing Hamas and other terrorists, and stripping women of rights or gays or anyone with a different religion. Or when the CCP started the Pandemic and the World Health Organization was defending China. International law should rule Global Warming too.

At least Muslins in Brazil eat Feijoada (pork) and like women in bikinis. It was like that during my time at University more than 20 years ago. But as usual, things can always get worse. People were marching here demanding the return of the military dictatorship. Good thing they lost.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

I might get back to this post but the first thing I wanna point out is the Oslo accords led to the diarmament of the PLO and the creation of the Palestinian Authority. Yasser Arafat won a Nobel Peace Prize and Rabin was assassinated by a far right Israeli friend of Benjamin Netanyahu. Palestine did not reject accords.

Also in 2017 Hamas amended their charter to recognize Israel in exchange for the recognition of Palestine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/01/hamas-new-charter-palestine-israel-1967-borders

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u/Volfegan May 31 '24

Iran, Palestinians, and Hamas for World Peace! Where they give full rights to gays and women* [sarcasm]

Iran, Palestinians, and Hamas love embracing Jews all around the world. Not raping them whenever they can.

All countries surrounding Palestine want to receive them as refugees??? Or nope??? They are not welcome. I wonder if those countries don't know how peaceful Palestinians truly are?! They won a Nobel prize for Peace.

Hamas & Palestinians, the freedom fighters who are fighting to free women of their rights. Fighting for coexistence with Israel (even when they say they do not want a Two State Solution), and do non-stop terrorism and try to kill every Israeli they find. But their terrorism is Israel's fault.

World Peace achieved by Hamas. They even win prizes when they kill a Jew.

Do you know who are doing some genocide against Muslims? China. Where is the international law when you need it?

We need to wait for the "Supreme Leader of Iran" to win against Global Warming with his supreme power. Iranian women need to choose between that burka-like clothes and die on 49ºC or wearing a normal light dress and be raped and killed by the police.

Islam for women's rights... and Peace of course.

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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever May 30 '24

Palestinians have about as many rights as Iranians which is a lot more rights than you think.

https://youtu.be/qA8D5waGjBI?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/IXZoWsuZYv0?feature=shared

Edit: This war didn't start on 10/7