r/canadaleft 7d ago

Pleasant surprise

Pleasantly surprised this sub is pro gun. Now I know this is truly a leftist sub and not a liberal sub playing soc dem. Very cool. Anyways that's all I had to say.

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u/Thunderbear79 7d ago

I don't have an issue with guns. I do have an issue with weapons manufacturers using their extreme wealth to influence people into buying more than they need, and for the same reasons I disapprove of all forms of blind consumerism

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u/Natural_Comparison21 7d ago

Yea that's fair. I think one person on r/canada of all places said something rather profound to me on why they find the gun ban extra stupid. All this has done is get people to go out and buy more guns from firearms manufacturers then they would have before. Kind of ironic isn't?

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u/camoure 7d ago edited 7d ago

I’m as anti gun as they come, but all that means is I won’t ever buy one or hold one. That doesn’t mean other responsible gun owners shouldn’t be able to access them. My dad was murdered - a gun ban wouldn’t have prevented his death. All bans do is force people to illegally obtain what they want.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 7d ago

As I have said to other people before. If a drug ban didn’t stop people from getting cocaine a gun ban is not going to stop people from getting guns. Especially when we live next to a country with the most guns per capita in the world. You can bet your bottom dollar that if Singapore lived next to a country that had as lentiant a drug policy as america does gun policy there laws wouldn’t mean shit. Despite there policy literally being “Kill drug dealers.” 

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u/camoure 7d ago

Exactly. People are gonna do what they want. The best thing our government could do is push for massive education campaigns on gun violence whilst expanding the registration and licensing programs. Bans are so reactionary and almost always have the opposite effect.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 7d ago

After they froze handgun sales people bought more handguns durning that time in a few months as they normally would in a entire year. The number of PAL holders have only increased and the desire for people to get guns had only increased. Because let me give you a bit of a personal ancedete despite knowing I am speaking to the choir. 

I do not like alcohol. I am not a fan of the stuff and find it to be mostly tasty poison. I have seen the affects of alcohol on the human condition via seeing a alcoholic in my family ruin his life to the shit. However you can bet your bottom dollar that if the government said they wanted to ban booze I would be going out to LCBO and picking up as many long lasting wines as I could afford. Because banning something only makes me want it more. You can also bet your bottom dollar if these gun bans get revoked I am buying some of those currently banned guns. As they have only made me want to get them more with the ban. Ironic how that is don’t you think? 

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u/holysirsalad 5d ago

r/CanadianSRA if you’re interested! The subreddit’s pretty quiet, most people seem to be interested in Discord. The main Discord is open to anyone if you’d like to just hang out!

If you like the podcast Blueprints of Disruption, our PR rep did an interview with them that aired back in June. 

FWIW similarities with the namesake American Socialist Rifle Association basically end at the name lol. The reality is that most of our organizing has been meetups/range days, community work, and mutual aid projects like sock drives and wildfire smoke relief kits. 

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u/Markham_Marxist 3d ago edited 3d ago

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

  • Karl Marx

Marxists generally oppose gun control because we see guns as a necessary means to an end, that end being revolution. Nobody wants violence, but revolutionary socialists understand the reality that the state will violently suppress revolutionary movements no matter how peaceful they are.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 6d ago

Did I say that anywhere in this post? I literally was just glad that this sub was pro gun. Nowhere did I say that in this post. That’s a odd assumption for you to make. 

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u/kgbking 6d ago

Fair enough. My bad. I apologize for making false projections.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 6d ago

It's alright. I have encountered in my internet journeys some people who have had those thoughts that you were suggesting. It was... Painful. Came off as such larp energy and I was just like "If this person spent half as much energy on this larp as they did on helping leftists get there PALs we would be seeing a massive surge in left wing PAL holders by now." What wasted energy.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 6d ago

Buddy... Why the fuck did you just say incriminating shit on a public Reddit fourm? Either you are fucking with me or are being really fucking stupid and saying the quiet part out loud. Like I can't control your life. I don't know who the hell you are but holy shit. Please don't say this kind of shit on Reddit of all places. SMH.

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